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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby ExPatriatePen on Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:09 am

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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby BurghersAndDogsSports on Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:26 am

Im not being a smart a-- but would any of that really help? Im being serious, I dont have a lot of knowledge of the statistics.
I do know that I read recently other than Chicago, Detroit, DC etc crimes are way down across the country.

Since people obsess over the sensationalized crimes, I dont see any of this actually helping. It seems it may help more with
"normal" criminal activity I guess, but nobody seems to care about that anyways.


* New restrictions on assault weapons

* Stiffer penalties for using a gun to commit a crime

* New limits on the number of bullets in a gun magazine
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby PensFanInDC on Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:37 am

shafnutz05 wrote:Another 9/11 is unlikely to happen because, in the extraordinarily unlikely case of a hijacking, the cockpit doors are sealed and people would never let them take control of the plane again knowing what we now know.


Disagree. I think another 9/11 is inevitable.
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:55 am

PensFanInDC wrote:
shafnutz05 wrote:Another 9/11 is unlikely to happen because, in the extraordinarily unlikely case of a hijacking, the cockpit doors are sealed and people would never let them take control of the plane again knowing what we now know.


Disagree. I think another 9/11 is inevitable.


Another major terror attack is inevitable. When I say another "9/11", I am talking about multiple airliners being taken over and flown into different high priority targets. That is unlikely to happen again.

I agree that another mass attack will happen somewhere
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:23 am

http://pix11.com/2013/01/08/death-threats-reporters-families-targeted-at-paper-that-published-controversial-gun-owner-map/#UG3uOJHIg2DgRs6z.99

There is never any excuse for death threats, but I love the rest of the response to that newspaper that released the map of all of the registered gun owners in Westchester and Rockland Counties. When you essentially treat a law-abiding portion of the population like they are child molesters, what kind of blowback do you expect?

I especially love releasing all of the reporters' home addresses. Turnabout is fair play!
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby columbia on Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:25 am

If the people who lodged the threat were trying to play into the people with guns are scary mantra, they have succeeded.
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby PensFanInDC on Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:44 am

shafnutz05 wrote:
PensFanInDC wrote:
shafnutz05 wrote:Another 9/11 is unlikely to happen because, in the extraordinarily unlikely case of a hijacking, the cockpit doors are sealed and people would never let them take control of the plane again knowing what we now know.


Disagree. I think another 9/11 is inevitable.


Another major terror attack is inevitable. When I say another "9/11", I am talking about multiple airliners being taken over and flown into different high priority targets. That is unlikely to happen again.

I agree that another mass attack will happen somewhere


Then I would like to change my answer to agree
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:49 am

I'll allow it
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:58 am

columbia wrote:If the people who lodged the threat were trying to play into the people with guns are scary mantra, they have succeeded.


What's ironic in this whole debate is that many of the strongest advocates for gun control have made continuous "joking" references about shooting members of the NRA, other gun rights advocates, etc. Heck, just last night, Piers Morgan and Buzz Bissinger were having a good laugh about shooting Alex Jones, and made overtures that they hope his family doesn't get shot.

On Twitter, I can show you countless tweets from outraged liberals seriously calling for a mass murder at NRA headquarters, and assassinations of other prominent gun rights advocates. Are these people not demented? The legal gun-owning population is no scarier than any other portion of the population, unless your narrative dictates it.
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby tifosi77 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:37 am

BurghersAndDogsSports wrote:Im not being a smart a-- but would any of that really help? Im being serious, I dont have a lot of knowledge of the statistics.
I do know that I read recently other than Chicago, Detroit, DC etc crimes are way down across the country.

Since people obsess over the sensationalized crimes, I dont see any of this actually helping. It seems it may help more with
"normal" criminal activity I guess, but nobody seems to care about that anyways.


* New restrictions on assault weapons

* Stiffer penalties for using a gun to commit a crime

* New limits on the number of bullets in a gun magazine

Assault weapons are used in the commission of less than 3% of gun crimes, which is a subset of the larger population of 'violent crime'.

If people got this bent over everything that caused deaths, McNuggets would have been outlawed 20 years ago. But there is an obsession with 'assault weapons' because they look bad; half the text of the '94 AW ban and the current bill deals with cosmetics of the particular weapon..... pistol grip, collapsible stock........

columbia wrote:If the people who lodged the threat were trying to play into the people with guns are scary mantra, they have succeeded.

After having a week to digest all the fallout, I think the publication of the list has been an incredible disservice to everyone in Westchester who does not own a handgun, and who therefore did not have their name and address published. The map represents a veritable no-fly zone of houses to explicitly avoid for any criminal who might be planning a robbery in the county. All they need to do is look at the map and see that their target house is not listed and bingo! (Granted, the list does not show the presence of long guns, so there is still an element of risk)

But aside from that, there are judges and prosecuting attorneys and police officers name's on that list; there are an awful lot of criminals behind bars that might have paid someone money to obtain the addresses of the cop, DA and judge who sent them up the river. There were also multiple battered women on that list whose addresses had previously been undisclosed.
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:16 pm

How in God's name have I never seen this?



LOL
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby PensFanInDC on Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:22 pm

Not sure what is funny about that.
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:23 pm

PensFanInDC wrote:Not sure what is funny about that.


The "LOL" was one of those "laughing to keep from raging" things.
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby PensFanInDC on Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:24 pm

shafnutz05 wrote:
PensFanInDC wrote:Not sure what is funny about that.


The "LOL" was one of those "laughing to keep from raging" things.


And again...i change my answer to agree...
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:25 pm

:lol:
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby Gaucho on Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:27 pm

Why in God's name would you want to see this?
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby PensFanInDC on Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:29 pm

Shadenfreud
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:29 pm

Gaucho wrote:Why in God's name would you want to see this?


Masochism?
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby Gaucho on Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:32 pm

Too embarrassing to feel Schadenfreude, but masochism might be accurate. :wink:
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby mac5155 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:41 pm

its not funny to me that the kids are starving, and homeless. its hilarious that she wants "somebody to be held accountable and somebody needs to pay"
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby Gaucho on Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:50 pm

mac5155 wrote:its not funny to me that the kids are starving, and homeless. its hilarious that she wants "somebody to be held accountable and somebody needs to pay"


Yup, it's the first part that makes it hard to feel schadenfreude. It's the second part that makes it hard to feel sympathy. With her, not the kids.
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby Shyster on Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:53 pm

I'd be willing to chip in for a locking chastity belt so that nothing more can go in or out of her vagina.
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby Gaucho on Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:55 pm

What about the fathers?
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:58 pm

Gaucho wrote:What about the fathers?


Spoiler:
Image
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby Alejandro Rojas on Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:12 pm

Government has made fathers irrelevant.
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