Defence21 wrote:You've got to look at this from San Jose's side. Why do they want to get rid of Clowe? My guess is they don't. But, if they do, they'd be looking to use him as a way to fill a legitimate hole -- and there would be a lot of interested teams, which likely means the Penguins would have to offer more than a draft pick a 6/7 type defenseman and a low level prospect. San Jose is in win-now mode. They're not giving up a piece to the puzzle without getting an equal or better piece to the puzzle in return.
Put it this way, Dupuis is a similar production forward. Like Clowe, he's not in the rumor mill as being available. Would you be happy to get another team's 3rd rounder, 6/7 defenseman and low level prospect for Dupuis? Value-wise, it might seem fair, but how does it help the Penguins, a team with aspirations of winning now? It doesn't.
I can absolutely agree with what your saying.
I wasn't saying the trade needed to be done by weeks end, but at some point during the season. (lots of "if's" forthcoming) If SJ has not been able to extend him by say mid feb I would start making phone calls. If SJ believes a couple weeks later they may lose him for nothing they may be more open to moving him. Depending how talks were going I would probably up it to a 2nd rounder plus picks / prospects discussed above. But, the whole basis why I used him as a target was him possibly being already available at the deadline depending how SJ's season was going.
That's more possible, though still unlikely. Again, let's think of it from a Penguins perspective. It's the trade deadline and Dupuis is an impending free agent while the Penguins are pushing toward the playoffs with Cup aspirations. Do we trade Dupuis to avoid losing him for nothing, or do we take a gamble, hoping he helps the Penguins win the Cup, then deal with his contract when the season is over?
Most competitive teams are adding free agents to their rosters at the trade deadline, not shipping them out. Think of the Penguins most prominent deadline acquisitions in the past: Roberts, Hossa, Dupuis, Ponikarovski, Kovalev, Guerin, etc. These are players whose contracts were up at season's end, who were coming from non-playoff-bound teams.
If the Penguins want Clowe, one of two things will have to happen. One, they'll need to send an equally-valued NHL player to San Jose to fill a need, or two, they'll need to wait until the season ends and look to swing a pre-free agency deal to acquire his negotiating rights.