LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Forum for posts that are not hockey-related.

Moderators: Three Stars, dagny, pfim, netwolf

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby steelhammer on Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:16 pm

steelhammer
AHL'er
AHL'er
 
Posts: 3,276
Joined: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:31 am
Location: Hold on, I have a stat for that.

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby tifosi77 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:17 pm

shafnutz05 wrote:http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/01/15/police-shoot-kill-dog-when-going-to-a-home-by-mistake/

An Adams County man is in shock after he says deputies shot and killed his dog.

Jeff Fisher said deputies went to his house by mistake. He said when they opened the door his dog Ziggy ran outside and officers shot and killed him.

Fisher said Ziggy was his best friend and can’t believe he’s gone.

“(He went to the door) to see who it was and the police officer shot him three times,” Fisher said. “They killed my dog for no reason.”

Yeah, well, those vicious collie mixes will herd the hell outta you if you let them. Obviously, the cop wasn't going to let him.

Part of me wants to say I wish the cop's dog gets hit by a car, but then that's just one more dead dog that didn't do anything wrong. Perhaps I can pray to Shiva to give the cop terminal mouth herpes instead.
tifosi77
NHL Healthy Scratch
NHL Healthy Scratch
 
Posts: 14,084
Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:33 pm
Location: White-Juday Warp Field Interferometer

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby tifosi77 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:18 pm

steelhammer wrote:Image

The pov portion of this one has SO much potential........ :lol:
tifosi77
NHL Healthy Scratch
NHL Healthy Scratch
 
Posts: 14,084
Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:33 pm
Location: White-Juday Warp Field Interferometer

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby steelhammer on Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:31 pm

Image
Image
Image
steelhammer
AHL'er
AHL'er
 
Posts: 3,276
Joined: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:31 am
Location: Hold on, I have a stat for that.

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby Alejandro Rojas on Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:36 pm

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts ... d_in_syria

Poison Gas used in Syria.

Carry on, nothing to see here.
Alejandro Rojas
ECHL'er
ECHL'er
 
Posts: 536
Joined: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:08 pm
Location: Aloha Means Goodbye

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby Shyster on Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:46 pm

mac5155 wrote:
viva la ben wrote:Does anyone really think this new law is really intended to curb gun violence?

The idiot politicians in NY do.

I doubt it. This is not in any way a measured, reasoned response to what happened in Connecticut. Nor is the new law intended to have any significant effect on preventing school shootings or other mass shootings. What happened in New York was nothing more than using the horror of Sandy Hook and the resulting public indignation as an excuse to ram through gun-control provisions that have been on the wish lists of anti-gun groups like the Brady Campaign and Violence Policy Center for years. As noted by Reason, the bill in New York was drafted by a group of legislative leaders and presented to the full Senate only minutes before the vote. It was rammed through on the first day of the legislative session and went from introduction to being signed into law in less than 24 hours. In fact, the passage of this law required a bypass of the New York Constitution, which normally requires no less than three calendar legislative days to pass between the introduction of a bill and its final passage (Article III, § 14). There’s an exception for emergencies when “the governor … shall have certified, under his or her hand and the seal of the state, the facts which in his or her opinion necessitate an immediate vote thereon….” Cuomo said that this bill needed to pass in mere hours because:

Some weapons are so dangerous, and some ammunition devices so lethal, that New York State must act without delay to prohibit their continued sale and possession in the state in order to protect its children, first responders and citizens as soon as possible.

This is nothing more than anti-gun legislators using Sandy Hook as an excuse to pass a law that they knew would not have support but for the public still being in a state of outrage over a tragic event. It was pure exploitation.
Shyster
AHL All-Star
AHL All-Star
 
Posts: 6,754
Joined: Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:32 pm
Location: Here and there

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby shafnutz05 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:52 pm

The exploitation aspect of this (not to mention the similarities to the PATRIOT Act) are so blatant it's ridiculous.
shafnutz05
NHL Third Liner
NHL Third Liner
 
Posts: 60,557
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:10 pm
Location: Amish Country

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby tifosi77 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:59 pm

USA PATRIOT Act was signed into law a scant 44 days after 9/11......... yay for knee jerk legislation!!
tifosi77
NHL Healthy Scratch
NHL Healthy Scratch
 
Posts: 14,084
Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:33 pm
Location: White-Juday Warp Field Interferometer

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby Pitt87 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:20 pm

Just looked at my first paycheck of the new year an wanted thank our President for the pay cut today. No tax increases on middle class didn't even last long enough to be inaugurated for a second term.
Pitt87
AHL All-Star
AHL All-Star
 
Posts: 5,399
Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:33 am
Location: Admin wrote:Rooting for the Flyers is not allowed here. Seriously.

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby columbia on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:24 pm

I recall the halcyon days when shad was complaining about this thread not being conservative enough.
columbia
NHL Third Liner
NHL Third Liner
 
Posts: 51,880
Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:13 am
Location: دعنا نذهب طيور البطريق

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby shafnutz05 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:28 pm

columbia wrote:I recall the halcyon days when shad was complaining about this thread not being conservative enough.


I think this thread tends to go liberal/conservative based on current political happenings. Hell, I have even taken a relatively liberal tack at times. The irrational grandstanding going on right now strikes a chord with a lot of people that wouldn't otherwise be politically minded, IMO.
shafnutz05
NHL Third Liner
NHL Third Liner
 
Posts: 60,557
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:10 pm
Location: Amish Country

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby mac5155 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:29 pm

Pitt87 wrote:Just looked at my first paycheck of the new year an wanted thank our President for the pay cut today. No tax increases on middle class didn't even last long enough to be inaugurated for a second term.


Twas not a "tax increase" sir. You owed that to the government anyway. Remember?
mac5155
NHL Third Liner
NHL Third Liner
 
Posts: 48,726
Joined: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:06 pm
Location: governor of Fayettenam

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby Malkamaniac on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:30 pm


I would like to personally thank you for posting one of my many tumblrs. Thanks-Obama has been a hit.
Malkamaniac
NHL Third Liner
NHL Third Liner
 
Posts: 34,728
Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:33 pm
Location: Who is Sims?

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby columbia on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:33 pm

So whats the minimum threshold for people here, re: feeling the need to bear arms against the government?

btw: I have to hand it to the gun industry: selling paranoia might be the highest form of American capitalism. :lol:
columbia
NHL Third Liner
NHL Third Liner
 
Posts: 51,880
Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:13 am
Location: دعنا نذهب طيور البطريق

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby mac5155 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:35 pm

columbia wrote:So whats the minimum threshold for people here, re: feeling the need to bear arms against the government?


30 round clips on my pistol grip semi automatic rifle

Does that count?
mac5155
NHL Third Liner
NHL Third Liner
 
Posts: 48,726
Joined: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:06 pm
Location: governor of Fayettenam

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby mac5155 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:36 pm

Come on, Barack and company are selling the paranoia.
mac5155
NHL Third Liner
NHL Third Liner
 
Posts: 48,726
Joined: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:06 pm
Location: governor of Fayettenam

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby columbia on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:37 pm

mac5155 wrote:
columbia wrote:So whats the minimum threshold for people here, re: feeling the need to bear arms against the government?


30 round clips on my pistol grip semi automatic rifle

Does that count?


No, I mean what would cause you to attack the government?
That's part of the deal, right?
columbia
NHL Third Liner
NHL Third Liner
 
Posts: 51,880
Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:13 am
Location: دعنا نذهب طيور البطريق

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby mac5155 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:38 pm

That's the funny part. No one wants to use their "assault" weapons to assault. Only to defend.
mac5155
NHL Third Liner
NHL Third Liner
 
Posts: 48,726
Joined: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:06 pm
Location: governor of Fayettenam

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby King Sid the Great 87 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:39 pm

Let's give credit where credit is due.

"I need all my weapons to protect my home from an intruder and just in case the government goes tyrannical. By god, it says so in the Constitution"

Is no less dopey than

"If we ban some guns, we will fix these mass shooting problems."
King Sid the Great 87
AHL'er
AHL'er
 
Posts: 3,031
Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:41 am

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby columbia on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:39 pm

mac5155 wrote:That's the funny part. No one wants to use their "assault" weapons to assault. Only to defend.


That's a start.

What would you be defending against?
Where would draw the line that firing on other citizens would be required?
columbia
NHL Third Liner
NHL Third Liner
 
Posts: 51,880
Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:13 am
Location: دعنا نذهب طيور البطريق

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby columbia on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:43 pm

Or to put it another way: what's the baseline of tyranny for people here, that would require them to bear arms against the government (and therefore other Americans)?
columbia
NHL Third Liner
NHL Third Liner
 
Posts: 51,880
Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:13 am
Location: دعنا نذهب طيور البطريق

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby shafnutz05 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:46 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban#Expiration_and_effect_on_crime

In 2004, a research report submitted to the United States Department of Justice and the National Institute of Justice found that should the ban be renewed, its effects on gun violence would likely be small, and perhaps too small for reliable measurement, because rifles in general, including rifles referred to as "assault rifles" or "assault weapons", are rarely used in gun crimes.[9] That study by Christopher S. Koper, Daniel J. Woods, and Jeffrey A. Roth of the Jerry Lee Center of Criminology, University of Pennsylvania found no statistically significant evidence that either the assault weapons ban or the ban on magazines holding more than 10 rounds had reduced gun murders. However, they concluded that it was "premature to make definitive assessments of the ban's impact on gun crime," and argue that if the ban had been in effect for more than nine years, benefits might have begun to appear.
shafnutz05
NHL Third Liner
NHL Third Liner
 
Posts: 60,557
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:10 pm
Location: Amish Country

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby Pitt87 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:05 pm

mac5155 wrote:
Pitt87 wrote:Just looked at my first paycheck of the new year an wanted thank our President for the pay cut today. No tax increases on middle class didn't even last long enough to be inaugurated for a second term.


Twas not a "tax increase" sir. You owed that to the government anyway. Remember?


2% un-reduction in taxes. Got it. How stupid can I be... Maybe I'll just ask them to keep even more of my money every month so I can get a big fat refund and think thats a good thing! :scared:
Pitt87
AHL All-Star
AHL All-Star
 
Posts: 5,399
Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:33 am
Location: Admin wrote:Rooting for the Flyers is not allowed here. Seriously.

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby columbia on Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:34 pm

Another George Bush Plans To Try His Hand At Politics
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics ... t-politics
columbia
NHL Third Liner
NHL Third Liner
 
Posts: 51,880
Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:13 am
Location: دعنا نذهب طيور البطريق

Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby DelPen on Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:25 am

columbia wrote:Or to put it another way: what's the baseline of tyranny for people here, that would require them to bear arms against the government (and therefore other Americans)?

Another Waco
DelPen
NHL Third Liner
NHL Third Liner
 
Posts: 36,181
Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:27 am
Location: Lake Wylie, SC

PreviousNext

Return to NHR

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests


e-mail