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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby mikey287 on Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:52 pm

ville5 wrote:Wasn't Palmieri waived recently? Or was it the other one?


Yes. Definitely wasn't the other one, he's a top prospect for Anaheim. Plays on a top line with Ryan Getzlaf and Corey Perry.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby MRandall25 on Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:53 pm

ville5 wrote:Wasn't Palmieri waived recently? Or was it the other one?


Anaheim's Palmieri is playing pretty well. 3 goals in his last 2 games.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby FallenHero96 on Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:04 am

Rupp with some nice quotes about the pens in the MN paper today:

“My years in Pittsburgh were two of my most enjoyable years playing hockey,” said Rupp, a native of Cleveland, Ohio. “They made it a place where everybody was accountable. It was fun coming to the rink. Playing under Dan Bylsma and Mike Yeo, you were just excited to come to practice every day.

“I know that’s just how [Yeo] is and how he coaches and I would expect it’s the same thing here. I’m just looking forward to battling for Mike and my new teammates.”

Because the Wild plays a similar system to the Penguins, it shouldn’t take long for the 6-foot-5, 243-pound Rupp to reaccustom himself.

“I just remember practices were real up-tempo and the way the game was played was just getting north with the puck as quick as you could,” Rupp said.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby pcm on Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:11 pm

It was fun watching the likes of Rupp, Laraque, Roberts, Staal, Talbot et all cycle the puck in the offenive zone for a full minute shift. Rarely would they actually get a shot off, but the momentum boost was a riot.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby mikey287 on Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:53 pm

Devils acquire Andrei Loktionov for a 5th. Even if he doesn't quite pan out, that's a good amount of talent to acquire for a 5th round pick, nice job by them...
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby MRandall25 on Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:55 pm

mikey287 wrote:Devils acquire Andrei Loktionov for a 5th. Even if he doesn't quite pan out, that's a good amount of talent to acquire for a 5th round pick, nice job by them...


Think they could've gotten more if he didn't ask for the trade?
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Tico Rick on Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:32 pm

FallenHero96 wrote:Rupp with some nice quotes about the pens in the MN paper today:

“My years in Pittsburgh were two of my most enjoyable years playing hockey,” said Rupp, a native of Cleveland, Ohio. “They made it a place where everybody was accountable. It was fun coming to the rink. Playing under Dan Bylsma and Mike Yeo, you were just excited to come to practice every day.”


Everyone was accountable? I guess Rupp was declined membership in Geno's country club. :pop:
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Gaucho on Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:37 pm

Tico Rick wrote:
FallenHero96 wrote:Rupp with some nice quotes about the pens in the MN paper today:

“My years in Pittsburgh were two of my most enjoyable years playing hockey,” said Rupp, a native of Cleveland, Ohio. “They made it a place where everybody was accountable. It was fun coming to the rink. Playing under Dan Bylsma and Mike Yeo, you were just excited to come to practice every day.”


Everyone was accountable? I guess Rupp was declined membership in Geno's country club. :pop:


Well, he did not say what exactly everybody was accountable for.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Tico Rick on Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:56 pm

Good point. Maybe Rupp was accountable for kegs in the locker room, which could explain why he was excited to come to practice every day.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby mikey287 on Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:43 pm

MRandall25 wrote:
mikey287 wrote:Devils acquire Andrei Loktionov for a 5th. Even if he doesn't quite pan out, that's a good amount of talent to acquire for a 5th round pick, nice job by them...


Think they could've gotten more if he didn't ask for the trade?


The market just isn't that strong for a guy like Lokti...he's Russian, he's not particularly fast, he has nice hands but not a ton of finish it seems and with no NHL experience...his contract is up at the end of the season, he's certainly a flight risk. Not because he's a prima donna like Zherdev, but because there's a better opportunity for him back home. Guaranteed KHLer, not a guaranteed NHLer. Guaranteed 6-digit salary, I would think. Here, on a two-way deal, he might only make $65K, $75K, $85K.

He was a fifth rounder out of Windsor if I recall (played with Adam Henrique there), so the Kings got an equal return on their investment asset wise - in a vacuum. An organization wouldn't make this trade if they didn't think they would ever use him, so I hope New Jersey puts him to use. I'd like to see him get a chance, he's got some talent to him.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Lt. Dish on Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:10 pm

http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-philade ... on-timonen

CSN Philly: Sources: Flyers Close to Extension with Kimmo Timonen
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby mikey287 on Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:28 pm

Lt. Dish wrote:http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-philadelphia-flyers/sources-flyers-close-extension-timonen

CSN Philly: Sources: Flyers Close to Extension with Kimmo Timonen


1 year, $6 million perhaps...
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Lt. Dish on Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:42 pm

mikey287 wrote:
Lt. Dish wrote:http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-philadelphia-flyers/sources-flyers-close-extension-timonen

CSN Philly: Sources: Flyers Close to Extension with Kimmo Timonen


1 year, $6 million perhaps...


Yep, mikey, you're right. Just heard that year and term a few minutes ago on CSN. I think that's an overpayment for how he's been playing vis-a-vis his age, do you?

But I guess the Flyers are desperate. If they lose him, then they're in big trouble.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby mikey287 on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:31 am

Lt. Dish wrote:
mikey287 wrote:
Lt. Dish wrote:http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-philadelphia-flyers/sources-flyers-close-extension-timonen

CSN Philly: Sources: Flyers Close to Extension with Kimmo Timonen


1 year, $6 million perhaps...


Yep, mikey, you're right. Just heard that year and term a few minutes ago on CSN. I think that's an overpayment for how he's been playing vis-a-vis his age, do you?

But I guess the Flyers are desperate. If they lose him, then they're in big trouble.


Nailed it with the bolded. Rest doesn't require an answer if the bolded is true.

I think it's fine for a one-year deal, you just need to keep him until you can figure out what you're doing back there. Coburn has not been very good for them this year, Grossmann is only a third pairing guy, Schenn has been good but he's not a top pairing guy. They don't have answers to the problems they have, they have incongruency between coach and GM. The safest thing to do is buy time. Timonen buys them time. Whether it's market value or not (it's not, especially when Upper Limit declining is factored in next year), it needed to be done.

But think of the predicament further: other options.

Free agency market is bone dry. The trade market is a slippery slope for Philadelphia as any major trade would involve trading recently acquired assets. There's not a lot they can do. This is as close to an example as you're going to find in recent times for "what if an NHL club was run like a 14 year old runs a video game team?" Investing big in players that don't fit what your coach wants, telling the coach to start changing it up, and then have the coach reject your meddling...it's not good. It's a prom-night-pregnancy of a plan: it was poorly conceived and the consequences that follow are tumultuous...
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby shmenguin on Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:46 am

even with pronger on his way out, the flyers look like they'll need to shed some money before next year. grossman at 3.5 ...what a super deal
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Lt. Dish on Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:38 am

The Flyers have Wile E. Coyote (Super Genius) handling their asset/roster/cap management, and it seems they're in a weird place right now--a lot of uncertainty at many key positions.

mikey, yeah, Coburn hasn't been at all good this year. You could go a while and forget that he was even on the roster, and that's not a bad thing given his position. But lately, to me, he's looking... I think "awkward" is the word I'd use. From what I saw he had a good game vs. TBL the other night, so maybe it's rust falling off. (Aside: I can't believe he's only 27; it seems like he's been in the NHL longer than that.) I scratched my head a little at seeing him named to Chicken Parm's Team Canada for Sochi: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=415401 . But then again, you can't always take those "So-and-so's teams for..." things too seriously. I haven't put the selection, as unofficial as it is, in context of all other options Hockey Canada has for stay-at-homers, though.

PHI has a trap game vs. FLA (all games vs. FLA are trap games IMO--LOL) tonight. Go, Panthers.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby tfrizz on Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:06 pm

mikey287 wrote:
Lt. Dish wrote:http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-philadelphia-flyers/sources-flyers-close-extension-timonen

CSN Philly: Sources: Flyers Close to Extension with Kimmo Timonen


1 year, $6 million perhaps...


Sounds like that's confirmed. 113-year-old Timonen, 1 year, $6-mil.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby mikey287 on Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:20 pm

Isles acquire Tim Thomas for a conditional 2nd to put them over the Lower Limit (cap floor). Thomas, like most Islander acquisitions, is not expected to report...
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby SolidSnake on Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:22 pm

Isles love getting players that don't want to play for them
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby MRandall25 on Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:23 pm

Tim Thomas officially retires in 5... 4... 3...
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby columbia on Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:27 pm

In related news, Tim Thomas was seen this afternoon canvassing for the Nassau County Republican Committee.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Gaucho on Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:27 pm

Isles needed to acquire TT to get above the cap floor. Wasting a 2nd round pick to accomplish that seems... silly.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby ffemtreed on Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:31 pm

NHL should void that trade since its obviously a non-hockey trade.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby MRandall25 on Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:33 pm

... especially since the pick is conditional on the fact Tim Thomas actually plays.

Welcome to the newest CBA loophole.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Gaucho on Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:46 pm

I agree, because:

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
The Boston Bruins only get a draft pick from the Islanders for Tim Thomas if he reports to them or any other team if NYI trade his rights.

Otherwise, the benefit for BOS is gaining cap space Thomas was eating up because he's on a 35+ contract. Counts against cap no matter what.

Which is ideal for NYI. No acquisition price. NYI can toll contract to next year if they like, continue to get cap benefit in perpetuity.
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