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Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby DocEmrick on Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:22 pm

Man, I remember red-sea nail biting nights when Ovechkin and Crosby or Malkin would trade goals, where Bruce Boudreau was screaming his head off looking like a funny fat guy. Where Varlamov was actually managing to keep the Craps in some games, while Mike Green was at the other end of the rink...

What happened to those days? Article about the rivalry being heated, but I have to disagree with it... Of course it's always something special with the level of talent the Caps/Pens bring, but I don't really see it as a heated rivalry anymore.

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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby Lesky on Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:34 pm

What special talent does the Caps bring these days? :)
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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby skullman80 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:41 pm

I never saw it as that big of a rivalry to be honest.

They aren't the Flyers or the Rangers over the course of history. Pens have owned them in the playoffs.

Probably much like the Flyers didnt consider the Pens a big rival back back in the 70's and 80's cause they just rolled over us time after time.

Flyers/Rangers are still two biggest rivals in my eyes.
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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby thepittman on Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:19 pm

NOT OUR RIVAL
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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby thepittman on Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:43 pm

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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby helmespc on Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:48 pm

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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby m.lemieux66 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:59 pm

Just because two teams had first round draft picks doesn't make it a rivalry. NBC lived off of trying to debate who was the better player, Sid or Ovie. It is obvious now who is better so it takes away from that wow factor. Because we have at least three players (Sid, Geno, Neal) that are better than "The Great 8", Sid has a cup, and he can blow him out of the water in points when he was out over half of a season takes the thrill out of it for us. Maybe they still want to think it is a rivalry to get their blood pumping.
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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby no name on Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:10 pm

IMHO the rivalry is mostly due to the media build up of Ovi vs Sid and i think even the players feed off this more than a actual dislike for each other. Ovi and Sid are ultra competitive and want to be the best in the world. They know their biggest competition for the best player title is on the other team. This builds the rivalry. Also contributing is these 2 teams are top in the eastern comference. any 2 top teams are going to be concidered rivals and there is also some history to these 2 teams from the past.

Right now there is no competition, Sid is better with Ovi in a slump so it appears the rivaly dies down since the media has less to write about.
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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby shafnutz05 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:35 pm

what is a "red-sea" night?
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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby columbia on Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:37 pm

shafnutz05 wrote:what is a "red-sea" night?



Hockey Night in Jeddah
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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby shafnutz05 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:41 pm

columbia wrote:
shafnutz05 wrote:what is a "red-sea" night?



Hockey Night in Jeddah


Keep an eye out for the money changers on your way in folks
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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby Gaucho on Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:49 pm

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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby ShaPe on Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:53 pm

I've been a pens fans since early 90's and caps have always seemed to be the 2nd rivals after philly. I dont know much about the ranger rivalry many of the older fans talk about. Even in the playoffs where Jagr played for rangers I didnt feel there was a rivalry going on.

The caps... all those playoff series in the 90's, all the pens fans at away games that even I could hear from swedish tv etc. It just got a bit of a boost with Sid, Geno and AO but even without them I would say the rivarly that started in the 90's never died.
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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby Firebird on Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:08 pm

Didn't they beat us almost every game last year?
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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby shafnutz05 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:12 pm

I am fairly certain last night was the first time we have beat them on our home ice since before we won the Cup
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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby Digitalgypsy66 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:24 pm

shafnutz05 wrote:I am fairly certain last night was the first time we have beat them on our home ice since before we won the Cup

In regulation, regular season, since 2007. I think it was a big target game for the Craps, and the Pens were like "meh."
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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby shafnutz05 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:32 pm

Thanks gypsy, I meant to add "in regulation".
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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby 71Aj66ax87 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:29 pm

thepittman wrote:Image


Red Foreman?^
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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby pressure=9Pa on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:17 pm

I agree that the Caps have passed the Rangers as our second rival. However, it's nowhere close to the rivalry with Philadelphia. NHL/NBC tried to cram 87 v 8 down our throats as hockey's version of Magic v. Bird. It didn't fuel much growth for the sport, and it became really annoying really fast.
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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby Rocco on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:28 pm

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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby shafnutz05 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:32 pm

IMO, Flyers-Pens is the best rivalry in professional sports. Ravens-Steelers is close, but nothing matches the animosity of a Flyers-Pens game. I'm obviously biased, but I think a rivalry is much more engaging when physicality is involved. That's why Yankees-Red Sox or whatever is intensely boring to me.
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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby columbia on Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:46 am

98% of my sports hatred is reserved for the Flyers.
The rest is outside of hockey and really doesn't matter.

I don't get the Rangers and Devils hatred: one is comically inept and the other is respect in the face of frustration.
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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby Rylan on Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:55 am

columbia wrote:98% of my sports hatred is reserved for the Flyers.
The rest is outside of hockey and really doesn't matter.

I don't get the Rangers and Devils hatred: one is comically inept and the other is respect in the face of frustration.


more or less agree. Flyers, Ravens, WVU are the only sports teams I will always root against. Hate them all.
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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby Lt. Dish on Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:14 am

Flyers always and more every year (amazing it's still possible after all these years).

TIE Ravens since their inception and the Caps since early '90s
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Re: Is The Rivalry with the Capitals Simmered Down?

Postby Why Not Us on Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:31 am

The rivalry was perpetuated by both teams being at the top of the standings. The '09 series between the teams could go down as one of the best in league history.

But now that the Caps are seemingly a lottery team and Ovechkin's production isn't even matching Joel Ward, let alone Crosby- the talk of a rivalry is frowned upon.

Ovechkin is still a villain, based mostly on his past- not his present. But the rest of the Capitals are met with a lot of apathy by Pens fans.
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