the wicked child wrote:You're right. I shouldn't expect them to live up to their seed once in awhile, because it's all arbitrary, after all.
The 2 biggest disappointments to me were the loss in 09 to Villanova when they could have reached the final four (granted, they were likely going to get stomped by UNC anyway, but still disappointing) and the Butler debacle. That was by far the most favorable bracket they are likely to see and they found a way to blow the game in a fashion only Pitt could accomplish.
But I suppose I should just smile and pretend they aren't going to disappoint us again come March.
a seeding (outside of the 1s, 2s, and maybe 3s) is based on a ton of things that are outside the control of what happens on the floor. i dont disagree that the 09 team, iirc the 1 seed team?, should
have made the final four, but all number 1 seeds "should" make the final four and that rarely, if ever, happens. nova wasnt a slouch team and, upon further researching, the elite eight was the farthest that team has gotten in 30+ years--disappointing, but successful nonetheless. every year has a ton of great teams play just good in the tournament and isnt necessarily one thing that was their downfall, but a culmination of little things--missed FT, bad calls, turnovers, etc. while i understand that the mentality should be national championship or bust, for 98% of teams in the NCAA, that is a silly barometer for success (2% being the Duke, Kentucky, UNC, UConn (during the calhoun era at least), Kansas and flavor of the decade teams like Florida, Ohio st, Indiana, etc where there is a large influx of capable talent). It could be argued, and i agree to some extent, that the 2009 team had the potential to be in the latter grouping, but they needed 1 more 5 star/nba level player.
coming from a dude that has seen championships and final four failures, i would take losing in the elite 8 over the final four any day of the week--its just gut wrenching, stanley cup finals failure levels of sickening that you can harp over 1 bad call or 1 bad play and beat the analysis to death. i've always wanted the final game to be a best of three for that very reason, but that would never happen given how many games they already play.