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by mikey287 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:55 pm
npv708 wrote:mikey287 wrote:npv708 wrote:mikey287 wrote:Random thoughts:
- Clarkson isn't that good of a player to be honest, but I guess he's going to get that "grass is always greener" following now that he's scored a couple of against us.
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Yeah. I definitely have to disagree with you on this one. A lot.
Currently, he leads the Devils coming into this game with 13 points in 11 games. That would be 4th on the Pens behind Sid, Geno, and Kunitz. Last year, he had 46 points in 80 games.
Not to mention the intangibles. He hits. A lot and makes it count. He goes to the net and is smart with the puck.
Not much more you can ask from an undrafted forward...
He's definitely not smart with the puck. He's getting a bit better than what he used to be (useless toe drag that gains no space into a wrap-around...or Clark-around, as it was so named because he did it so often). He doesn't really have any hockey sense and he's an iffy skater, falls a lot too. Yeah, he hits, but it's not we don't have players that are capable hitters...all of the wingers we get are designed to be grinders/hitters/go-to-the-netters, just like they did in '09. Now, whether they can or can't do that any more or if the style of the team has gotten away from that is a matter for the courts. But Clarkson, ignoring the boxscore but watching him on the ice, isn't much better than our current core of players...
He's an upgrade on Kunitz? Also an undrafted forward in the same mold...I guess maybe slightly at this point in each of their careers, but not enough to be worth acquiring or paying for...
I wouldn't say an upgrade to Kunitz, but he's definitely something the Pens sorely lack the most in my opinion, which is a physical top-six forward (for Geno/Neal) that will go to the net and open up space.
What? You think you know hockey because you write for some two-bit blog that will let any hack write for them?
- Not being serious, bro.
I know nothing.
No, I mean, you're not wrong...it's just not the right thing to do. Yes, Clarkson is an upgrade on waiver wire pick up Zack Boychuk for our top-six, yes. That's correct. But if he's not an upgrade on Kunitz, what's the point even? I mean, what are we really accomplishing? If we can't get him until next year anyway, we might as well just see if Bennett is ready and just give regular Kunitz back to Malkin instead of attempted-replacement Kunitz...
That's what I mean, besides the fact that I don't think all that much of Clarkson, he's just not worth acquiring on a team that has this type of player already. Or you go and find a cheaper version of another if you want another so bad...these guys exist certainly and you don't have to pay them $4+ million...
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by NJ5934 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:56 pm
I just saw 48!!!
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by NashvilleCat on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:56 pm
As often as we make blind passes to the front of the net you'd think someone would be there from time to time.
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by tfrizz on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:56 pm
murphydump55 wrote:DontToewsMeBro wrote:Jeffrey and Boychuk both look decent tonight.
Agreed. I wish Vitale was dressed too, we need his spark.
How Craig Adams gets all these free passes from Byslma, yet Jeffrey doesn't get a chance is beyond me.
Adams gets a pass because he plays the same way HCDB did.
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by Gaucho on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:56 pm
New Jersey Devils, sucking the life right out of the game since 1994.
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by DontToewsMeBro on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:57 pm
Wow no penalty? Good lord.
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by Pavel Bure on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:57 pm
Stone hands Dupuis.
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by SoupOrSam on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:57 pm
Well, the whistles are in the pockets now... TEE EM UP!
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by Matthew Monstar on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:57 pm
The SAME **** that would have been called against us yesterday when we took like 10 penalties, goes UNCALLED.
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by nocera on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:57 pm
Gaucho wrote:New Jersey Devils, sucking the life right out of the game since 1994.
Give the Devils the lead, youre gonna have a bad time.
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by Steve Dave on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:57 pm
Glad the hit in Jeffrey was a penalty yesterday but not today.
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by AlexPKeaton on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:57 pm
This game is boring. However there has been a lot of bad bounces for the pens. Devils are good at this boring hockey though.
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by The Snapshot on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:57 pm
NashvilleCat wrote:As often as we make blind passes to the front of the net you'd think someone would be there from time to time.
Possibly someone like Clarkson?
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by NJ5934 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:59 pm
tfrizz wrote:murphydump55 wrote:DontToewsMeBro wrote:Jeffrey and Boychuk both look decent tonight.
Agreed. I wish Vitale was dressed too, we need his spark.
How Craig Adams gets all these free passes from Byslma, yet Jeffrey doesn't get a chance is beyond me.
Adams gets a pass because he plays the same way HCDB did.
Probably why Kunitz and Dupuis will be locked in on the top line until they retire or become UFAs
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by mikey287 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:59 pm
To be fair, the Penguins were "trapping" as much or more than the Devils in the first two periods I thought. We sit back and play a 1-2-2 when we dump it and feels there's a less than 50-50 chance we can win possession. The Devils collapse back deeper to their net than we do, but that's not trapping.
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by sil on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:59 pm
nocera wrote:Gaucho wrote:New Jersey Devils, sucking the life right out of the game since 1994.
Give the Devils the lead, youre gonna have a bad time.

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by Pavel Bure on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:59 pm
The Snapshot wrote:NashvilleCat wrote:As often as we make blind passes to the front of the net you'd think someone would be there from time to time.
Possibly someone like Clarkson?
I think you meant MacArthur
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by joe icepick on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:59 pm
Devils suck the life out of the Pens
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by offsides on Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:00 pm
nocera wrote:Gaucho wrote:New Jersey Devils, sucking the life right out of the game since 1994.
Give the Devils the lead, youre gonna have a bad time.
Yep. I don't see anything wrong with it. Get a lead and play strong defense. sounds like a sound formula to me.
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by KG on Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:00 pm
tfrizz wrote:murphydump55 wrote:DontToewsMeBro wrote:Jeffrey and Boychuk both look decent tonight.
Agreed. I wish Vitale was dressed too, we need his spark.
How Craig Adams gets all these free passes from Byslma, yet Jeffrey doesn't get a chance is beyond me.
Adams gets a pass because he plays the same way HCDB did.
Good point...Very similar players....
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by npv708 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:00 pm
mikey287 wrote:npv708 wrote:mikey287 wrote:npv708 wrote:mikey287 wrote:Random thoughts:
- Clarkson isn't that good of a player to be honest, but I guess he's going to get that "grass is always greener" following now that he's scored a couple of against us.
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Yeah. I definitely have to disagree with you on this one. A lot.
Currently, he leads the Devils coming into this game with 13 points in 11 games. That would be 4th on the Pens behind Sid, Geno, and Kunitz. Last year, he had 46 points in 80 games.
Not to mention the intangibles. He hits. A lot and makes it count. He goes to the net and is smart with the puck.
Not much more you can ask from an undrafted forward...
He's definitely not smart with the puck. He's getting a bit better than what he used to be (useless toe drag that gains no space into a wrap-around...or Clark-around, as it was so named because he did it so often). He doesn't really have any hockey sense and he's an iffy skater, falls a lot too. Yeah, he hits, but it's not we don't have players that are capable hitters...all of the wingers we get are designed to be grinders/hitters/go-to-the-netters, just like they did in '09. Now, whether they can or can't do that any more or if the style of the team has gotten away from that is a matter for the courts. But Clarkson, ignoring the boxscore but watching him on the ice, isn't much better than our current core of players...
He's an upgrade on Kunitz? Also an undrafted forward in the same mold...I guess maybe slightly at this point in each of their careers, but not enough to be worth acquiring or paying for...
I wouldn't say an upgrade to Kunitz, but he's definitely something the Pens sorely lack the most in my opinion, which is a physical top-six forward (for Geno/Neal) that will go to the net and open up space.
What? You think you know hockey because you write for some two-bit blog that will let any hack write for them?
- Not being serious, bro.
I know nothing.
No, I mean, you're not wrong...it's just not the right thing to do. Yes, Clarkson is an upgrade on waiver wire pick up Zack Boychuk for our top-six, yes. That's correct. But if he's not an upgrade on Kunitz, what's the point even? I mean, what are we really accomplishing? If we can't get him until next year anyway, we might as well just see if Bennett is ready and just give regular Kunitz back to Malkin instead of attempted-replacement Kunitz...
That's what I mean, besides the fact that I don't think all that much of Clarkson, he's just not worth acquiring on a team that has this type of player already. Or you go and find a cheaper version of another if you want another so bad...these guys exist certainly and you don't have to pay them $4+ million...
Oh, I don't mean to say I think the Pens should acquire him via trade, which would be an extremely unlikely trade considering the circumstances. I think we have a better chance at acquiring Ovie at the deadline than we do Clarkson.
I think that type of player, even a middle of the road type, would go a long ways to give Geno the room that he is (now) apparently expecting.
What I'd really prefer is to move Kunitz back with Malkin and Neal and let it be Boychuk - Sid - Dupuis or something like that.
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by Gaucho on Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:01 pm
Trade all role players!!!
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by Gaucho on Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:01 pm
Or waive them.
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by SoupOrSam on Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:01 pm
ZE GAME IZ OVER! We won't even get to pull ze goalie!
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by murphydump55 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:01 pm
2 minutes to go, down 2 and we're trying stretch passes through 7 bodies....Please Dan, learn something new.
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