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Re: Governor sues NCAA over PSU sanctions

Postby count2infinity on Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:08 am

45% of the adults that were polled just after the Sandusky thing happened believe that Joe Paterno partook in raping children. If that was your father/husband wouldn't you do everything in your power to clear his name?
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Re: Governor sues NCAA over PSU sanctions

Postby viva la ben on Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:12 am

The Freeh report didn't say that Joe was an active participant to the rape. Just that he actively concealed the fact.
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Re: Governor sues NCAA over PSU sanctions

Postby Troy Loney on Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:13 am

Really? I've never heard any inclination from anyone, anywhere that Paterno was a pedaphile too. Did you get that from some PSU jargon trying to prove that the rest of the world is irrationally hating PSU?
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Re: Governor sues NCAA over PSU sanctions

Postby count2infinity on Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:30 am

I'm not going to get into it with you Troy, because I know exactly where your beliefs are, and that's fine. You can believe what you will. Members of a group called "Framing Joe Paterno" had a survey put together, hired an outside research group to conduct the survey and here's the results:

http://www.framingpaterno.com/sites/def ... 120813.pdf

For some reason 45% stuck in my head. In the poll it's 28%. I think the 45% was based on the 55% that answered False to the statement of "Joe Paterno was accused of molesting children." where as the other 45% either didn't know or answered true.

If it were up to me, I would just let the whole ordeal die. The damage is done and there's not much they can do to restore Paterno's name, but I'm saying as a Son or Wife to Joe, I can understand why they'd want his name cleared. I'm sure you could put yourself in their shoes for a minute and understand why they want what they want... or maybe you can't, and that's fine.
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Re: Governor sues NCAA over PSU sanctions

Postby Troy Loney on Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:39 am

Just seems like this is a "this is our story and we're sticking to it".

If I were to put myself in their shoes, i'd be terrified to dig any further...i'd be afraid about what the actual full story is.
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Re: Governor sues NCAA over PSU sanctions

Postby count2infinity on Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:40 am

Maybe they're that confident that the full story is on their side.
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Re: Governor sues NCAA over PSU sanctions

Postby mac5155 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:44 am

count2infinity wrote:Maybe they're that confident that the full story is on their side.


Nah, can't be.
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Re: Governor sues NCAA over PSU sanctions

Postby relantel on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:00 pm

If nothing else, Clemente's report is a must-read if the goal is to educate people as to the insidious nature of the acquaintance "nice-guy" offender.

The whole report (and admittedly, I've gotten as far as the opening section of Dr. Berlin's report) destroys Freeh, and then Freeh destroyed himself in his statement he released obviously without reading the Paterno document, committing a lie in it (on Freeh's changed story of Paterno's availability vs the July 2012 Freeh press conference and report). Destroys Freeh's conspiracy theory of a coverup as absurd. (Well, so did the John Ziegler youtube video, and likely far less cost). Shows that Freeh didn't bother with experts either on sex offenses or the law (state and federal). What the report doesn't do, and cannot do, is answer all of the questions of what went on - the pending trials of Curley, Schultz and Spanier will do that. I suspect the small facts will not be able to be ignored at that point - such as Schultz and Courtney (Penn State's then outside counsel) going to Centre County CYS in 2001 - that are inconvenient to the Freeh/media narrative.

This report did change some minds - Phil Knight of Nike for example, who had issued a statement last July without having read the Freeh report critical of Paterno issued a statement today reversing himself. And it seems LeVar Arrington is on board at last, perhaps joining the impending lawsuit (separate from the Corbett one).
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Re: Governor sues NCAA over PSU sanctions

Postby PhantomJB93 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:08 pm

Serious question: if Ray Lewis can have a statue, why can't Joe Paterno?
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Re: Governor sues NCAA over PSU sanctions

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Re: Governor sues NCAA over PSU sanctions

Postby tifosi77 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:06 pm

Got to hear Jay Paterno on the Herd this morning mention Penn State-Altoona. For some reason, hearing my hometown campus (where I spent two years) mentioned on national radio in connection to this story kind of tore at me.
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Re: Governor sues NCAA over PSU sanctions

Postby mac5155 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:07 pm

tifosi77 wrote:Got to hear Jay Paterno on the Herd this morning mention Penn State-Altoona. For some reason, hearing my hometown campus (where I spent two years) mentioned on national radio in connection to this story kind of tore at me.


I was there for a year as well.
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Re: Governor sues NCAA over PSU sanctions

Postby columbia on Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:06 pm

NCAA sues Corbett, Pa. officials over 'unconstitutional' attempts to keep Penn State fines in state
http://citizensvoice.com/news/ncaa-sues ... -1.1447570
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Re: Governor sues NCAA over PSU sanctions

Postby relantel on Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:29 pm

columbia wrote:NCAA sues Corbett, Pa. officials over 'unconstitutional' attempts to keep Penn State fines in state
http://citizensvoice.com/news/ncaa-sues ... -1.1447570

I think this a dumb move by the NCAA. It opens up discovery as to the validity of the (obviously crammed down) "consent decree", since this is relied upon as a contract by the NCAA.
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Re: Governor sues NCAA over PSU sanctions

Postby relantel on Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:30 pm

though, coming off of the whole Miami fiasco, where Emmert "didn't know" and somehow it's ok for him, I see why they did it from a PR standpoint, something had to get Miami off the front burner.
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Re: Governor sues NCAA over PSU sanctions

Postby count2infinity on Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:33 pm

welcome to america, land of suing people because they're suing you...
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