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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby The Snapshot on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:14 pm

mikey287 wrote:It's a natural flushing of the system, I'm ok with it.


Exactly. A team that is going to compete cannot keep waiting on guys beyond a few years pro without any progress at all. None of those guys matter in the grand scheme of things, so it's better to have more draft age players with our team's mark on them - on the hope that one of these guys turns into a diamond in the rough. It was clear that none of these guys moved past the initial positive impression they made on our organization.

NHL guys who are not top picks don't make some meteoric moves in their first few years. Late round picks, or failed early ones, rarely putter along and then amazingly transform in an off-season. It's a slow, consistent development of their skills - with the possible addition of an asset like a growth spurt or great strength or speed training.

None of these guys showed anything new over multiple camps and games in WBS or here. They need to be culled from the herd so that we can make the same evaluation on Megna or Sammuelson or Morrow or whoever. It's up or out.
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby columbia on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:15 pm

Why did anyone consider Tangradi the key piece to that trade?
Just because Shero talked him up?
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby no name on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:16 pm

Good luck Eric, i always felt you never got a fair chance in the Burgh. More so the pens style doesn't fit what you can bring to a team. Hope you find success in Winnipeg.

As a Penguins hockey fan... Good riddance.
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby murphydump55 on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:17 pm

columbia wrote:Why did anyone consider Tangradi the key piece to that trade?
Just because Shero talked him up?


Shero probably saw a lot of him and heard a lot about him because he's American, and we know Shero loves his American players.
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby Sam's Drunk Dog on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:18 pm

Catastrophe! :lol:
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby mikey287 on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:18 pm

columbia wrote:Why did anyone consider Tangradi the key piece to that trade?
Just because Shero talked him up?


HF called him a top-50 prospect at one point (not just on Pittsburgh either) as I recall...when we got him, the hype train was out of the station...just goofballed it...everyone...these things happen when you're dealing with 7-foot tall 19 year olds playing against 17 year olds...
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby murphydump55 on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:19 pm

no name wrote:Good luck Eric, i always felt you never got a fair chance in the Burgh. More so the pens style doesn't fit what you can bring to a team. Hope you find success in Winnipeg.

As a Penguins hockey fan... Good riddance.


Is there a team out there that can fit a poor skater in that has slow foot speed with good straight away speed? Can they also fit in poor hands and the inability to utilize his size?
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby The Snapshot on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:19 pm

columbia wrote:@The Snapshot

You'd better order one the babies, while you have the chance....
http://www.thepensblog.com/tpb/dec2011/ ... order.html


Ha!! In reality he was even softer than the cartoon image of him for that shirt.
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby tfrizz on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:20 pm

Best of luck ET.

The fact that GMRS got picks for Lovejoy and Tangradi confirms whatyou I believed - that neither would clear waivers.
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby Idoit40fans on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:21 pm

To me it confirms that an NHL contract opening was more important than either player.
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby JeffDFD on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:22 pm

The way I see it - Tangradi was a project that was not working out in PGH. We got Boychuk on waivers to be a new project and he has a better chance right now than Tangradi because Tangradi has consistently not worked out with the Pens.
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby The Snapshot on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:24 pm

mikey287 wrote:
columbia wrote:Why did anyone consider Tangradi the key piece to that trade?
Just because Shero talked him up?


HF called him a top-50 prospect at one point (not just on Pittsburgh either) as I recall...when we got him, the hype train was out of the station...just goofballed it...everyone...these things happen when you're dealing with 7-foot tall 19 year olds playing against 17 year olds...


That's it. He needed to emerge last year in reality, and when he didn't I just couldn't get with the "pencil him in to the top 6" camp. It is clear that the org was iffy on him too since they obviously threw him into the deep end. He drowned.
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby slappybrown on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:26 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:To me it confirms that an NHL contract opening was more important than either player.
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby skullman80 on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:27 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:To me it confirms that an NHL contract opening was more important than either player.


This.
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby no name on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:35 pm

columbia wrote:Why did anyone consider Tangradi the key piece to that trade?
Just because Shero talked him up?



When Shero was interviewed he made it seem like the trade was for Tangradi and Kunitz was the throw in.
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby The Snapshot on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:35 pm

In support of those stating concern over whether our team improved over the off-season - our top six winger solution was traded for a 7th round pick, because we picked up a new top six winger solution on waivers......
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby DontToewsMeBro on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:37 pm

murphydump55 wrote:People, the name is BOYCHUK, not BOYCHUCK.

It's like STALL all over again.


I get this feeling that you are consistently the most angry poster on this board.
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby columbia on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:38 pm

no name wrote:
columbia wrote:Why did anyone consider Tangradi the key piece to that trade?
Just because Shero talked him up?



When Shero was interviewed he made it seem like the trade was for Tangradi and Kunitz was the throw in.


Well, I specifically mean once anyone saw him pull a few shifts against NHL players.
His lack of a future in PGH (and probably in the league) seemed pretty evident and I'm certainly no scout. :)
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby no name on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:40 pm

murphydump55 wrote:
no name wrote:Good luck Eric, i always felt you never got a fair chance in the Burgh. More so the pens style doesn't fit what you can bring to a team. Hope you find success in Winnipeg.

As a Penguins hockey fan... Good riddance.


Is there a team out there that can fit a poor skater in that has slow foot speed with good straight away speed? Can they also fit in poor hands and the inability to utilize his size?



Mark my words, Tangradi will double his out put with the Jets, he will score 2 goals for them.
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby BigMcK on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:41 pm

Well, so much for that Tangradi for Bobby Ryan deal. A 7th round pick isn't going to be a great winger for Sid. 7th round pick can't even tie its own skate laces.

Thanks, Shero. You just ruined my day.
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby canaan on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:51 pm

murphydump55 wrote:
no name wrote:Good luck Eric, i always felt you never got a fair chance in the Burgh. More so the pens style doesn't fit what you can bring to a team. Hope you find success in Winnipeg.

As a Penguins hockey fan... Good riddance.


Is there a team out there that can fit a poor skater in that has slow foot speed with good straight away speed? Can they also fit in poor hands and the inability to utilize his size?

ponikarovsky found work
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby Hawkeynut on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:51 pm

Meh, bye bye Tangradi... fringe NHLer at best. At least Shero chose where this waiver player was going. Don't need any teams from the division claiming him.

Not saying he will amount to anything, you just don't want to face the kid 3-4 times this year.

At least Shero is wheeling and dealing albeit on a small scale.
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby marek on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:52 pm

Good luck Eric.
Hopefully you find your way within a system that suits your ability a bit better.
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby tfrizz on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:54 pm

canaan wrote:
murphydump55 wrote:
no name wrote:Good luck Eric, i always felt you never got a fair chance in the Burgh. More so the pens style doesn't fit what you can bring to a team. Hope you find success in Winnipeg.

As a Penguins hockey fan... Good riddance.


Is there a team out there that can fit a poor skater in that has slow foot speed with good straight away speed? Can they also fit in poor hands and the inability to utilize his size?

ponikarovsky found work


Yup, he's got 2G 0A in 12 games for the Jets. Claude Noel doesn't seem shy about giving younger players a shot, so I wouldn't be shocked to see ET get a look in Ponikarovsky's spot on their 3rd line with Burmistrov and Wellwood (?).
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Re: Tangradi traded to Winnipeg for 7th round pick

Postby tfrizz on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:54 pm

Hawkeynut wrote:Meh, bye bye Tangradi... fringe NHLer at best. At least Shero chose where this waiver player was going. Don't need any teams from the division claiming him.

Not saying he will amount to anything, you just don't want to face the kid 3-4 times this year.

At least Shero is wheeling and dealing albeit on a small scale.


Not only that - getting anything in return, even if it's a 7th round pick, is better than giving him away for free.
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