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Matt Duchene goal

Postby DMcGrew on Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:02 pm

ummmm..

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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby Froggy on Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:13 pm

That's why you play to the whistle
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby Kovy27 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:40 pm

Offsides should be reviewable. Briere's goal in the playoffs last year and this are horribly missed calls.
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby Fire0nice228 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:04 pm

If they make offsides reviewable we'll have 10 times a game where we have to go to the booth for review.. be worse than football. It sucks when it happens and it leads to a goal but the flow of the game would be killed IMO
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby jprolley on Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:09 pm

just another example of how the refs/NHL show its favoritism toward the pittsburgh penguins
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby MRandall25 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:57 pm

Juuuuuuuust a bit offsides.

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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby relantel on Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:01 pm

clearly egregious calls make for bad rule changes. I think only way they could do it would be to open up review of the entire goal sequence, as most instances are not directly off an offside entry as Duchene. And that's a whole Pandora's box I don't think we want to open.
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby Pitt87 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:06 pm

Fire0nice228 wrote:If they make offsides reviewable we'll have 10 times a game where we have to go to the booth for review.. be worse than football. It sucks when it happens and it leads to a goal but the flow of the game would be killed IMO


Most games don't see 10 goals scored. If they can review goaltender interference, they should be able to review if a guy was offsides.
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby Kovy27 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:25 pm

Fire0nice228 wrote:If they make offsides reviewable we'll have 10 times a game where we have to go to the booth for review.. be worse than football. It sucks when it happens and it leads to a goal but the flow of the game would be killed IMO


Offsides on goals...

Some people's kids.
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby Staggy on Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:23 am

Pitt87 wrote:
Fire0nice228 wrote:If they make offsides reviewable we'll have 10 times a game where we have to go to the booth for review.. be worse than football. It sucks when it happens and it leads to a goal but the flow of the game would be killed IMO


Most games don't see 10 goals scored. If they can review goaltender interference, they should be able to review if a guy was offsides.


So what are you going to do, every time someone is close to being offsides you let the play run its entire course and then after the whistle go back to see if the last 2 minutes of play even counted? Seems unrealistic and horribly inconvenient.
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby relantel on Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:39 am

wow. that was bad. (just saw a replay). Much more blatant than the Briere play last year.

Duchene knew he was offside, but was quoted as saying he was told Nashville played it back in, which isn't supported by the replay.
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby Mr. Colby on Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:08 am

That was much worse than the briere play.

Pens kept playing on the Briere goal, everyone completely mailed it in on the Duchene goal
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby yubb on Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:58 am

I don't want plays reviewed in the booth. Especially not offsides. Most offsides are called correctly. Rarely do they result in a goal. It's not worth it to stop the game to make sure you get the right call. Especially when even when plays are reviewed you don't always get the right call.

If you want to watch a game that stops every 30 seconds, watch football or baseball. Otherwise, watch many other sports.

Reviewing only offsides that resulted in a goal wouldn't result an in extra stoppage, but a longer stoppage. You've got to live with a bad call or two in sports. The alternative isn't any better. It results in more stoppages and not always a more accurate call.
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:57 am

Plays this egregious don't happen often, give coaches one challenge per game that costs them a timeout. If they're right, they get another challenge and keep their timeout. And get to punch the linesman/ref that was wrong in the face. The play would be reviewed at the next whistle...but really coaches would only challenge on scoring plays, so play would already be stopped. It wouldn't really affect anything, they would never be used.
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby shoeshine boy on Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:08 am

my gf (who is a local ref) had an interesting theory on this no call: the linesman was actually waving off the icing (the assist came from behind the red line) and by the time he realized he should've been calling offside it was too late.
a coaches challenge would solve this issue.
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:09 am

I think the challenge should be made be squirting red gatorade onto the ice.
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby shafnutz05 on Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:15 am

lol, the linesman wasn't remotely screened, he was 8 feet away. Good lord man
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby shoeshine boy on Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:39 am

relantel wrote:wow. that was bad. (just saw a replay). Much more blatant than the Briere play last year.

Duchene knew he was offside, but was quoted as saying he was told Nashville played it back in, which isn't supported by the replay.


yes and no. the Nashville defense clearly touched the puck BUT it takes more than a touch to play it back in. Duchene played to the whistle like you're supposed to. the league will deal with that linesman in private and the Preds will get a break somewhere down the road.
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby Digitalgypsy66 on Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:39 am

Can't they RFID the puck and players and have this called electronically? Same with goals crossing the goal line.
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:41 am

Haha you couldn't do that unless you had rf tags on the front and back of each skate blade
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby Digitalgypsy66 on Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:00 am

Idoit40fans wrote:Haha you couldn't do that unless you had rf tags on the front and back of each skate blade

Do it!
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby yubb on Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:30 pm

RFID is crazy expensive. A more feasible solution might be to do what they do with curling using electro-magnets or whatever it is.
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby Pitt87 on Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:39 pm

Staggy wrote:
Pitt87 wrote:
Fire0nice228 wrote:If they make offsides reviewable we'll have 10 times a game where we have to go to the booth for review.. be worse than football. It sucks when it happens and it leads to a goal but the flow of the game would be killed IMO


Most games don't see 10 goals scored. If they can review goaltender interference, they should be able to review if a guy was offsides.


So what are you going to do, every time someone is close to being offsides you let the play run its entire course and then after the whistle go back to see if the last 2 minutes of play even counted? Seems unrealistic and horribly inconvenient.


What you described is unrealistic, but to sensibly review scoring plays seems pretty reasonable.
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby Froggy on Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:51 pm

How many times has something like this actually happened? I think it's kind of reactionary to make a rule, or add replay or whatever.
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Re: Matt Duchene goal

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:05 pm

I think that is the best argument there is for adding challenges. Its the perfect response for the people flipping out that it will ruin games.
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