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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby Digitalgypsy66 on Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:47 pm

What's the consensus on Montreal Steak Seasoning? I've used it for years on my beef products with great results.
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:19 am

Why is dishwasher bad for cast iron?
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby Rylan on Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:20 am

Why is soap?
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby Kraftster on Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:42 am

I thought of the March 14 day when I saw this thread today. Less than a month away. :pop:
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby columbia on Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:43 am

Kraftster wrote:I thought of the March 14 day when I saw this thread today. Less than a month away. :pop:


This is why dish soap is bad.
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby Rylan on Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:43 am

pi day?
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby ville5 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:33 am

Rylan wrote:pi day?

Excuse me waitress, there's a hair in my pi.
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:58 am

Rylan wrote:pi day?


something like that :pop:
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby mac5155 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:38 am

Letang Is The Truth wrote:Why is dishwasher bad for cast iron?


It is cast iron. It will rust.
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:44 am

how is using water and washing and drying different than dishwasher?
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:46 am

Letang Is The Truth wrote:how is using water and washing and drying different than dishwasher?


There are plenty of dishes (mugs, glasses, etc) that may be hand-wash only as opposed to dishwasher-safe.

For example, we have wood salad bowls. If you put them in the dishwasher where they are being drenched for several hours on end, it will completely ruin them. However, if you use water sparingly when washing them by hand, and then immediately dry them with a towel, they will be fine.
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby mac5155 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:09 am

Letang Is The Truth wrote:how is using water and washing and drying different than dishwasher?


any water will make cast iron rust. you shouldn't use water at all to clean it.
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby Kraftster on Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:22 am

mac5155 wrote:
Letang Is The Truth wrote:Why is dishwasher bad for cast iron?


It is cast iron. It will rust.


No, you will lose the seasoning on the cast iron.
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:24 am

What Kraftster said. The first step (that I use anyway) after cooking with a cast iron skillet is to rinse it out with hot water...it's kind of necessary, not sure how you would clean it without water. If some rust does develop, you just brush it out and re-season your pan.
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby Kraftster on Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:30 am

Yeah, you can typically take care of rust. There's no reason you can't use water on cast iron if its seasoned. When my mom baked, the key to french bread is getting the crust on it. One of the best ways to get it is to put a hot cast iron skillet (small) in a pan of water in the oven below the bread (to create steam). The bottom/sides of those skillets would rust a little bit, but you could pretty easily take care of that. The seasoned surface was fine.
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby columbia on Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:42 am

Feel free to post said french bread technique in the cooks thread.
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby Kraftster on Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:50 am

I'll see what I can do. I can't put the french bread technique up without also putting the sour cherry jam recipe up. Fresh sour cherry jam and fresh french bread. Oh lawd.
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby mac5155 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:51 am

Kraftster wrote:
mac5155 wrote:
Letang Is The Truth wrote:Why is dishwasher bad for cast iron?


It is cast iron. It will rust.


No, you will lose the seasoning on the cast iron.


6 of one half dozen of the other? It rusts if you lose the season. if you use water, you lose the season. lol
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby tifosi77 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:29 am

With proper care and handling a cast iron skillet will last decades. My mom has one that's been in the family since Theodore Roosevelt was president.

Letang Is The Truth wrote:Why is dishwasher bad for cast iron?

Cast iron rusts. Minimal application of water over its lifetime, and you should be fine.

Rylan wrote:Why is soap?

The chemicals that allow soaps to break up dirt and stains and such also break down the seasoning you've worked so hard to apply to the skillet.

Plus soap implies that you're using water, which - as we've established - is bad.
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby BigMcK on Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:07 pm

Kosher or coarse salt with minimal amount of oil (from cooking or new) to form a paste that scours the pan. Using a paper towel or clean rag, scrub the pan clean with the salt paste. Dump out the salt, and using a slightly damp paper towel, wipe out any residual salt and then apply a tiny amount of fresh oil and wipe the pan again.

For added flavoring, cook bacon in the pan now and then. Once heated, the pores in the pan expand and absorbs the grease. Remove the bacon, leave the pan to cool with the grease and then clean with the technique above.

Grandpa's technique.
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby Shyster on Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:21 pm

I’ve been following Lodge’s recommendations for cleaning their pans for years, and they recommend that if you can’t get the pan clean with just a wipe-out, you can clean with hot water (no soap) and a scrub brush. If you immediately dry the pan off, you won’t get rust, and with no soap the seasoning isn’t really affected. Lodge recommends hitting the pan with a little oil once it’s dry.
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby Mr. Colby on Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:34 pm

So how do you apply the season to the cast iron skillet? Mine is worn out.
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby Pitt87 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:15 pm

Your broiler is an upside-down grill... so do this:

Get a heavy cast-iron pan. You can get one at the thrift store, but if you do, wash it thoroughly and season it properly. Basically just coat with oil and bake it for an hour or so.

Once you get the skillet ready, turn your broiler to high, get the pan super hot, and cook for 3-4 mins a side, max. Let rest 10 minutes after you pull it from the over. Boom... apartment steak.
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby shmenguin on Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:01 pm

So I'm almost there...beautiful crust, perfect medium to medium rare temp...but after I let it rest and get it on the plate, it's barely warm anymore. How do you keep the steak "hot" while it's resting?
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Re: Please help me not screw up my next steak

Postby pittsoccer33 on Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:31 pm

shmenguin wrote:So I'm almost there...beautiful crust, perfect medium to medium rare temp...but after I let it rest and get it on the plate, it's barely warm anymore. How do you keep the steak "hot" while it's resting?


does your dishwasher have a plate warming setting? you can heat plates a number of ways.

i actually have a few filets i cut myself sitting in the kichen warming. date night tonight :)
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