Thread of Love 3.0

[CERV96]

Has she offered to pay for the ticket?

Do you plan on buying her anything?

These are just things to think of when it comes to doing this if you ask me. Lots of good signs and bad when it comes to these. Some women will say yes to a Penguin game just to go. I have had women go with me before and never hear from them again. Well, I hear from them again here and there but not as much. It is either they went for me for the sake of just going to a game because they normally don't or I am just not what they are looking for.

A friend of mine explained my situation best. I may as well have "friend" stamped on my forehead. Once someone meets me and realizes I am a nice guy then they automatically designate me as a friend. No one wants a 100% genuine nice guy anymore. I have totally given up I can not be someone that I am not and I refuse to change. I have tried to be the tool bag type but it just isn't me.

[Rylan]

This is low risk high reward IMO.

If it works out then this guy is a genius. He is taking her somewhere fun where there is plenty of time to have conversations suck as the drive to (if of course he is picking her up) drive from, between periods, before the game, after the game, you get to have her get excited (hopefully the pens don't **** the bed), and you get to be excited. As long as you can have good conversation and genuinely have fun, then this is a smart choice.

And if its a terrible date, at least he was at a Pens game.

[FreeCandy44]

Has she offered to pay for the ticket?

Do you plan on buying her anything?

These are just things to think of when it comes to doing this if you ask me. Lots of good signs and bad when it comes to these. Some women will say yes to a Penguin game just to go. I have had women go with me before and never hear from them again. Well, I hear from them again here and there but not as much. It is either they went for me for the sake of just going to a game because they normally don't or I am just not what they are looking for.

A friend of mine explained my situation best. I may as well have "friend" stamped on my forehead. Once someone meets me and realizes I am a nice guy then they automatically designate me as a friend. No one wants a 100% genuine nice guy anymore. I have totally given up I can not be someone that I am not and I refuse to change. I have tried to be the tool bag type but it just isn't me.

I agree 100% with this final paragraph. Woman complain they want to be treated as equals, but when you have a genuinely nice man, he is more a friend.

[Froggy]

ok, here's the thing. a woman isn't obligated to like you just because you're nice to her. and if you're only being nice to her to try to get with her, it's really not being nice to her to begin with. and if you have no ulterior motives, hey, that's what friendship is.

people misunderstand what the "friend zone" really is. it's really when a girl knows you are interested, and exploits that, usually for psychological gain. it's not when you are nice to a girl but she isn;t interested in you romantically... 2 entirely different things.

[Rylan]

Froggy knows what is up. Its a game my friends, learn to play.

[Froggy]

switch roles for a second. if there was a girl you weren't attracted to at all, but still thought she was an ok person, and she was super nice to you, would you feel obligated to take her on a date just because she's a nice person? I'd be willing to bet that she wouldn't even be on your radar, and you wouldn't even percieve her kindness for interest.


also, when a girl says "i wish i could find a nice guy" she means "i wish the jerks i am attracted to were nicer"

she is still going to be attracted to the same type of person because that's how attraction works.

[obhave]

ok, here's the thing. a woman isn't obligated to like you just because you're nice to her. and if you're only being nice to her to try to get with her, it's really not being nice to her to begin with. and if you have no ulterior motives, hey, that's what friendship is.

THANK YOU.

The whole "nice guys finish last" thing is bs is my opinion. I think it has more to do with confidence then anything else, for me at least. If a guy is super nice, but very not very confident I will tend not to be attracted. However, if you match nice with confident its usually a winner.

[Idoit40fans]

Was just out playing basketball with the girlfriend. Good stuff. Also i suck at shooting...still.

[Rylan]

I would bet at any given moment there are at least 2+ that would say yes to a date for anyone out there. As long as you aren't insanely, disturbingly creepy.

[Idoit40fans]

Maybe i missed something, but 2+ what?

[Bioshock]

Froggy knows what is up. Its a game my friends, learn to play.

Too bad i suck at it. Lol.

I do get a kick out of the reaction i get when i move on sometimes. I have been called a sociopath and all sorts of insults for flat out refusing advances and being cold. What i mean by that is if a girl shows no interest, i simply move on with my day.

My ex called me all sorts of names and stuff when i didn't talk to her for a while. Now, she hasn't spoken to me in a couple of weeks and she stated that she's "Getting her life together". I honestly have no issue with this. She has a new boyfriend and is doing a lot of new things. Good for her. But i do find it funny that I'm a sociopath when i stop talking but she is simply advancing her own life according to her when she stops talking.

[Froggy]

ok, here's the thing. a woman isn't obligated to like you just because you're nice to her. and if you're only being nice to her to try to get with her, it's really not being nice to her to begin with. and if you have no ulterior motives, hey, that's what friendship is.

THANK YOU.

The whole "nice guys finish last" thing is bs is my opinion. I think it has more to do with confidence then anything else, for me at least. If a guy is super nice, but very not very confident I will tend not to be attracted. However, if you match nice with confident its usually a winner.

it's not that nice guys don't finish last, because there is some truth to that. it's more that the cause and effect is muddled. It's very lazy to be the "nice guy". and it's safe. In life... that is all aspects of life, and dating is no different... boldness is rewarded. and the "nice guys" are really the guys who don't go out and make it happen for themselves.

[Rylan]

ok, here's the thing. a woman isn't obligated to like you just because you're nice to her. and if you're only being nice to her to try to get with her, it's really not being nice to her to begin with. and if you have no ulterior motives, hey, that's what friendship is.

THANK YOU.

The whole "nice guys finish last" thing is bs is my opinion. I think it has more to do with confidence then anything else, for me at least. If a guy is super nice, but very not very confident I will tend not to be attracted. However, if you match nice with confident its usually a winner.

The only thing I think of when the nice guys finish last thing is there was an online comic (cyanide and happiness maybe?) where it was a couple and the female has a disgruntled look on her face and says that line. Makes me chuckle.

Maybe i missed something, but 2+ what?

People. Didn't want to classify men or women as to not ostracize anyone.

[Froggy]

Froggy knows what is up. Its a game my friends, learn to play.

Too bad i suck at it. Lol.

I do get a kick out of the reaction i get when i move on sometimes. I have been called a sociopath and all sorts of insults for flat out refusing advances and being cold. What i mean by that is if a girl shows no interest, i simply move on with my day.

My ex called me all sorts of names and stuff when i didn't talk to her for a while. Now, she hasn't spoken to me in a couple of weeks and she stated that she's "Getting her life together". I honestly have no issue with this. She has a new boyfriend and is doing a lot of new things. Good for her. But i do find it funny that I'm a sociopath when i stop talking but she is simply advancing her own life according to her when she stops talking.

i suck at it too, man. i'm just acutely aware of WHY i suck at it.

[Idoit40fans]

Yeah, being nice is another way of saying that you're not stepping onto the field. You are both literally and figuratively the guy standing at the bar smilin at people and stepping aside when they come to get drinks, but letting them walk away when they go back into the club.

[Rylan]

ok, here's the thing. a woman isn't obligated to like you just because you're nice to her. and if you're only being nice to her to try to get with her, it's really not being nice to her to begin with. and if you have no ulterior motives, hey, that's what friendship is.

THANK YOU.

The whole "nice guys finish last" thing is bs is my opinion. I think it has more to do with confidence then anything else, for me at least. If a guy is super nice, but very not very confident I will tend not to be attracted. However, if you match nice with confident its usually a winner.

it's not that nice guys don't finish last, because there is some truth to that. it's more that the cause and effect is muddled. It's very lazy to be the "nice guy". and it's safe. In life... that is all aspects of life, and dating is no different... boldness is rewarded. and the "nice guys" are really the guys who don't go out and make it happen for themselves.

What's the quote, "Life favors the bold."

[Bioshock]

ok, here's the thing. a woman isn't obligated to like you just because you're nice to her. and if you're only being nice to her to try to get with her, it's really not being nice to her to begin with. and if you have no ulterior motives, hey, that's what friendship is.

THANK YOU.

The whole "nice guys finish last" thing is bs is my opinion. I think it has more to do with confidence then anything else, for me at least. If a guy is super nice, but very not very confident I will tend not to be attracted. However, if you match nice with confident its usually a winner.

it's not that nice guys don't finish last, because there is some truth to that. it's more that the cause and effect is muddled. It's very lazy to be the "nice guy". and it's safe. In life... that is all aspects of life, and dating is no different... boldness is rewarded. and the "nice guys" are really the guys who don't go out and make it happen for themselves.

Lol, then explain how i keep getting shut down every time i ask a girl out. I think it's pretty bold of me to ask a girl i just met to dinner. They seem to always have a boyfriend... Hmm...

[Froggy]

fortune favors the bold, i think

[Rylan]

ok, here's the thing. a woman isn't obligated to like you just because you're nice to her. and if you're only being nice to her to try to get with her, it's really not being nice to her to begin with. and if you have no ulterior motives, hey, that's what friendship is.

THANK YOU.

The whole "nice guys finish last" thing is bs is my opinion. I think it has more to do with confidence then anything else, for me at least. If a guy is super nice, but very not very confident I will tend not to be attracted. However, if you match nice with confident its usually a winner.

it's not that nice guys don't finish last, because there is some truth to that. it's more that the cause and effect is muddled. It's very lazy to be the "nice guy". and it's safe. In life... that is all aspects of life, and dating is no different... boldness is rewarded. and the "nice guys" are really the guys who don't go out and make it happen for themselves.

Lol, then explain how i keep getting shut down every time i ask a girl out. I think it's pretty bold of me to ask a girl i just met to dinner. They seem to always have a boyfriend... Hmm...

Bad luck? A hesitant delivery? Body language? Tone of voice? Attractiveness? Any combination of things?

That's part of the game. 200 no's for 1 yes. Eventually things will fall into place.

[Froggy]

Bioshock, it could be a number of reasons, all of which none of us anonymous internet people could tell you. But think about it this way... what's that quote from the office?

"'You miss 100% of the shots you don't take'-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott

[Bioshock]

Lol, i think because i come off as so nervous that first time that i get rejected. I'm actually to the point that I'm amused by their responses now that i think about it. I should just take bets with myself each time i ask a girl. She is going to say one of these things every time.

1. I have a boyfriend
2. I'm too busy for a relationship

or...

My absolute favorite that happened to me.

3. I'll give you my number but when you contact me i won't answer or answer like 2 weeks later. Lost interest by then...

[Bioshock]

Bioshock, it could be a number of reasons, all of which none of us anonymous internet people could tell you. But think about it this way... what's that quote from the office?

"'You miss 100% of the shots you don't take'-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott

Pretty much. That is why i keep trying. I'm a numbers driven guy and I'm bound to find someone dumb enough to say yes eventually. Statistically... i can't lose!



Maybe...

[Bioshock]

What is very amusing to me is i get more attention from older men. It has happened so many times that i just laugh now. I have been called a pretty boy and i look younger than my age so that could be a huge reason.

Lol, more dudes hit on me....

[Froggy]

there's far too much cloak and dagger crap that goes on with dating. i understand approach anxiety and everything, but at it's core, isn't asking someone out basically just one person saying "I like you, and I would like to spend time with you", and the other one either saying yes or no? why is there this constant need to be all secretive, and to build attack plans?

[Rylan]

there's far too much cloak and dagger crap that goes on with dating. i understand approach anxiety and everything, but at it's core, isn't asking someone out basically just one person saying "I like you, and I would like to spend time with you", and the other one either saying yes or no? why is there this constant need to be all secretive, and to build attack plans?

Another quote that I am about to paraphrase (in fact not sure if it is a quote):

Your brain will make everything 10 times worse than reality. Waiting makes things worse, being scared fixes nothing. 30 seconds of blind courage is all you will need. Just go do it.