Jordan Staal day~ It's a family affair!

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Re: Jordan Staal day~ It's a family affair!

Postby MRandall25 on Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:03 pm

CERV96 wrote:
guiner wrote:Should have drafted Toews...


Same thing would've likely happened.
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Re: Jordan Staal day~ It's a family affair!

Postby guiner on Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:27 pm

MRandall25 wrote:
CERV96 wrote:
guiner wrote:Should have drafted Toews...


Same thing would've likely happened.


Not really, wouldn't have gotten handcuffed by a player saying he want to play with his brother. Much higher return on trade, plus might be more likely to consider trading Malkin.
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Re: Jordan Staal day~ It's a family affair!

Postby MRandall25 on Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:35 pm

guiner wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:
CERV96 wrote:
guiner wrote:Should have drafted Toews...


Same thing would've likely happened.


Not really, wouldn't have gotten handcuffed by a player saying he want to play with his brother. Much higher return on trade, plus might be more likely to consider trading Malkin.


But we would've still been faced with a decision of "Who do we get rid of", and a group of fans would've been miffed regardless.
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Postby Mongoose87 on Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:38 pm

MRandall25 wrote:But we would've still been faced with a decision of "Who do we get rid of", and a group of fans would've been miffed regardless.

That decision would've been a lot harder between Malkin and Toews than Malkin and Staal.
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Postby Gaucho on Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:50 pm

Shoud have drafted James Sheppard.
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Re: Jordan Staal day~ It's a family affair!

Postby SolidSnake on Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:55 pm

Mongoose87 wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:But we would've still been faced with a decision of "Who do we get rid of", and a group of fans would've been miffed regardless.

That decision would've been a lot harder between Malkin and Toews than Malkin and Staal.

Yea Toews is a much better player then Staal. I have yet to seen any evidence to discredit that.
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Postby marek on Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:20 pm

when I was growing up, my family was poor and I had to sleep in the same room as my older brother... I think that ended when he turned 13... but that said, we weren't sod farmers... so I guess what happens on the farm stays on the farm. LOL

Brotherly love vs. competing for championships???

Ask most professional athletes if they'd beat the living crap out of their sibling for a championship ring and the majority would say yes.

By default the Penguins actually got tougher by trading "the little brother away".
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Postby slappybrown on Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:24 pm

Are you a parody account? Because kudos if so.
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Re: Jordan Staal day~ It's a family affair!

Postby columbia on Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:26 pm

slappybrown wrote:Are you a parody account? Because kudos if so.


I can't scroll up.
Did NAN post above you?
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Postby newarenanow on Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:29 pm

columbia wrote:
slappybrown wrote:Are you a parody account? Because kudos if so.


I can't scroll up.
Did NAN post above you?


Hey now.
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Re: Jordan Staal day~ It's a family affair!

Postby slappybrown on Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:29 pm

columbia wrote:
slappybrown wrote:Are you a parody account? Because kudos if so.


I can't scroll up.
Did NAN post above you?


No re: marek and questioning Staal's "toughness." Dude played in the Montreal series after having a tendon in his foot severed by Subban's skate and a few days after surgery.

But re: NAN, I assume he is the Dude.
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Postby Rylan on Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:31 pm

Psh Staal only had 1 little tendon cut, he soff.
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Re: Jordan Staal day~ It's a family affair!

Postby newarenanow on Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:31 pm

slappybrown wrote:
columbia wrote:
slappybrown wrote:Are you a parody account? Because kudos if so.


I can't scroll up.
Did NAN post above you?


No re: marek and questioning Staal's "toughness." Dude played in the Montreal series after having a tendon in his foot severed by Subban's skate and a few days after surgery.

But re: NAN, I assume he is the Dude.


Not even close. But the Dude is right on everything.
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Re: Jordan Staal day~ It's a family affair!

Postby jeffshly on Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:34 pm

I was waiting for this day to see how the Pittsburgh media would spin it. I thought Jordan Staal was great when he was here. Best third-line center in the game with the ability to move up if need be, phenomenal defensively, blah, blah, blah. But at the end of the day, I root for what's on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back. If he didn't want to be here, regardless of the reason, then good riddance. Sutter isn't THAT much of a step down and there's a lot of freed up cap space. I understand all the sentiments about playing with Eric and about never being more than a third-line center. My heart's just not warmed by those sentiments. Bottom line is that, in my eyes, minus the drama, he's not much different than Jagr - he's a guy who pretty much had anything he wanted here and made it known he didn't want to play here any more. He can go have fun with his brother and, in a few years, his other brother. He's not going to win a championship in Carolina. If you're a professional and you put playing with family over winning championships, then I question the direction of your heart and your mind.

Like I said, good riddance.
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Postby newarenanow on Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:36 pm

Same major butthurt over Staal leaving in this thread.
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Re: Jordan Staal day~ It's a family affair!

Postby slappybrown on Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:38 pm

newarenanow wrote:Same major butthurt over Staal leaving in this thread.
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Re: Jordan Staal day~ It's a family affair!

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:40 pm

marek wrote:when I was growing up, my family was poor and I had to sleep in the same room as my older brother... I think that ended when he turned 13... but that said, we weren't sod farmers... so I guess what happens on the farm stays on the farm. LOL

Brotherly love vs. competing for championships???

Ask most professional athletes if they'd beat the living crap out of their sibling for a championship ring and the majority would say yes.

By default the Penguins actually got tougher by trading "the little brother away".


Is this real life?
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Re: Jordan Staal day~ It's a family affair!

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:41 pm

jeffshly wrote:If he didn't want to be here, regardless of the reason, then good riddance.


This is exactly how I feel.
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Re: Jordan Staal day~ It's a family affair!

Postby offsides on Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:51 pm

I know I will get beat up for this, but I would rather have J Staal than Malkin. I think we could have a stronger more balanced team with Crosby and Staal as the top two centers. We could afford much better wingers and have a stronger team through all 4 lines.

Flame away.
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Re: Jordan Staal day~ It's a family affair!

Postby jeffshly on Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:53 pm

newarenanow wrote:Same major butthurt over Staal leaving in this thread.


No "butthurt" here, but I don't want to read crap in the print media about how he was great and he longed to be with his brother or he wanted more responsibility or any of that crap. He's just a guy who didn't want to be here. End of story. I'll take great pleasure in booing him when he comes to town. I'll take greater pleasure when the Pens are hoisting another cup with another third line center, too!
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Postby jeffshly on Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:54 pm

offsides wrote: Flame away.


:face:
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Re: Jordan Staal day~ It's a family affair!

Postby slappybrown on Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:55 pm

offsides wrote:I know I will get beat up for this, but I would rather have J Staal than Malkin. I think we could have a stronger more balanced team with Crosby and Staal as the top two centers. We could afford much better wingers and have a stronger team through all 4 lines.

Flame away.

Realistically, you are saving 2.7-3.5 mm max in Malkin v. Staal if you assume Malkin signs for 8.7-9.5 per. It's an additional 2nd/3rd line winger. or a 4/5 D-man.
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Re: Jordan Staal day~ It's a family affair!

Postby offsides on Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:59 pm

slappybrown wrote:
offsides wrote:I know I will get beat up for this, but I would rather have J Staal than Malkin. I think we could have a stronger more balanced team with Crosby and Staal as the top two centers. We could afford much better wingers and have a stronger team through all 4 lines.

Flame away.

Realistically, you are saving 2.7-3.5 mm max in Malkin v. Staal if you assume Malkin signs for 8.7-9.5 per. It's an additional 2nd/3rd line winger. or a 4/5 D-man.


With that savings and the cap space we now have, yes we could get a couple pretty good wingers. Geno just doesn't seem to play well when Sid is healthy and playing well, at least since the cup run.
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Re: Jordan Staal day~ It's a family affair!

Postby marek on Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:12 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:
marek wrote:when I was growing up, my family was poor and I had to sleep in the same room as my older brother... I think that ended when he turned 13... but that said, we weren't sod farmers... so I guess what happens on the farm stays on the farm. LOL

Brotherly love vs. competing for championships???

Ask most professional athletes if they'd beat the living crap out of their sibling for a championship ring and the majority would say yes.

By default the Penguins actually got tougher by trading "the little brother away".


Is this real life?


yep. Just ask Ray Lewis :)
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