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Re: Despres.......

Postby farnham16 on Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:48 pm

columbia wrote:Engelland is ahead of Despres and Bortuzzo on the depth chart, not Eaton.
His acquisition will likely have no effect on their playing time.


I hope it doesn't. I wouldn't be so sure though. I personally think you'll see Eaton in in the lineup very soon.
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Re: Despres.......

Postby DropEmJayBird on Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:52 pm

Nisky isn't going to play 3rd pairing minutes.
Therefore you either play a rookie with engo or you play two rookies.
Those are the two options.
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Re: Despres.......

Postby mikey287 on Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:24 pm

Niskanen should be playing third pairing minutes...but you can't always get what you want...
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Postby thepittman on Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:53 pm

All the young guys need to play and gain NHL experience. You just have to suck up some crappy play on occasion.
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Postby meecrofilm on Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:06 pm

We've had plenty of crappy play from vets as well. I don't know how Niskanen is exempt from being scratched, particularly his recent play.
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Re: Despres.......

Postby Nizzy on Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:30 pm

In my opinion:

Despres is better than Engelland, Niskanen, and Bortuzzo. Niskanen is a number 5 and Engelland is a number 6, a number 7 on good playoff teams. Bortuzzo isn't better than those 2, but he will be. Niskanen has been making a lot of mistakes lately and every time they try to dump him up with Letang it works for like a game then he turns bad. This is what I would do right now:

Letang - Despres, Pens are 11-4 with Despres playing in the lineup, he's a stud..I would leave this alone for the rest of the year.
Orpik - Martin
Engelland - Bortuzzo - Nice gritty bottom pair, they don't need to play that much 5v5 a night so it shouldn't be a big problem.
Niskanen - decent all around defenseman that can fill in where needed. He should be number 7 at this moment.

Or sit Engelland for a bit. You know, what is he now? 28? He's obviously peaked as a bottom pair. I think Borts could be top 4, but this is screw with Despres/Bortuzzo's development and I don't like it.
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Re: Despres.......

Postby Nizzy on Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:34 pm

After we went down 3-0 to Philly, Despres makes the team as a full time player after that in my opinion. I also remember Bylsma being asked if Despres still had stuff to prove and he said No, he's played enough games last year to know he's going to be here.

But instead he sits. Probably our 3rd/4th best defenseman is in the stands lol..

Letang (playing poor atm, but his partner changes all the time...)
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Re: Despres.......

Postby Gaucho on Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:35 pm

Engelland is 30 and not going to get any better.
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Re: Despres.......

Postby columbia on Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:38 pm

This team has problems that run far deeper than whether Despres or Bortuzzo are in the lineup....it seems like a straw man complaint, to be honest.
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Re: Despres.......

Postby Gaucho on Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:45 pm

columbia wrote:This team has problems that run far deeper than whether Despres or Bortuzzo are in the lineup....it seems like a straw man complaint, to be honest.


Absolutely.
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Postby Henry Hank on Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:11 pm

columbia wrote:This team has problems that run far deeper than whether Despres or Bortuzzo are in the lineup....it seems like a straw man complaint, to be honest.


Of course it is. So is singling out Kennedy. So is pining over which top six forward they're going to spend all their assets on.

Martin injury is going to open up playing time for him anyway. Then we can see the issue with having two rookies who aren't that good at this point in the lineup. Wouldn't be that big a deal if the other depth was strong but Niskanen and Engelland playing more is also a bad thing.
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Re: Despres.......

Postby columbia on Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:19 pm

Yep, we'll get some full on rookie D action on Saturday.

Be careful what you wish for.....
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Re: Despres.......

Postby farnham16 on Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:20 pm

If you are going to play a system all about transition, strech passes, and dmen jumping into the play, then it makes zero sense to not play Despres. Zero.
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Re: Despres.......

Postby wondermoose on Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:05 am

Top reason I want Despres in is he shoots the puck. Everyone else, except for Martin as of late, refuses to shoot the puck from the blue line.
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Re: Despres.......

Postby Pens4Life on Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:29 am

Despres should play.. there is no reason at all,that he isnt! Blysma you can be a moron! Engo can sit,or even Nisky right now..

I cant wait to see what will Morrow,Harrington and Dumoulin be capable of in NHL in a couple of years..

Despres, Morrow, Harrington, Dumoulin, Bortuzzo, Letang/Orpik ... nice D squad
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Re: Despres.......

Postby pekkasteele on Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:39 am

DelPen wrote:If you won't play them now to get the rookie mistakes out of their systems then I guess you can't throw them in the playoffs together. That's why they both need to be playing right now so you can make that call by the trade deadline.


I said the same thing back in maybe August, but everyone thought I was crazy and said it would never work :)
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Re: Despres.......

Postby thepittman on Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:46 am

Gaucho wrote:Engelland is 30 and not going to get any better.

I don't think they want to sit their only bit of toughness, team is already undersized
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Re: Despres.......

Postby Idoit40fans on Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:57 am

pekkasteele wrote:
DelPen wrote:If you won't play them now to get the rookie mistakes out of their systems then I guess you can't throw them in the playoffs together. That's why they both need to be playing right now so you can make that call by the trade deadline.


I said the same thing back in maybe August, but everyone thought I was crazy and said it would never work :)


Your proposition had Brian Strait on the first pairing. And 1 person responded to it.

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Re: Despres.......

Postby pugilist13 on Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:51 pm

Despres needs to play now. Bortuzzo was awful against the Canes. Not hatin, just sayin.
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