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Chris Pronger

Postby Pitts on Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:50 pm

Just wonderin' ...

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As long as Chris Pronger doesn't retire, #Flyers can receive LTI relief for his cap hit of nearly $5M until his contract expires.

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If he retires, however, the 35-plus rule dictates his contract counts in full against the #Flyers cap through 2017. http://www.capgeek.com


So, he can't retire until 2017? Did the Flyer's ask him not to retire? Not that it matters to Pronger, he still gets his money anyway. But, this is huge for the Flyers.
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Re: Chris Pronger

Postby Pavel Bure on Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:02 pm

Mike Rathje 2
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Re: Chris Pronger

Postby Sam's Drunk Dog on Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:06 pm

Yep it's a loophole I'm sure the Flyers will take full advantage of.
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Re: Chris Pronger

Postby shmenguin on Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:35 pm

Sam's Drunk Dog wrote:Yep it's a loophole I'm sure the Flyers will take full advantage of.


rightfully. this isn't mike rathje - a guy that they were thrilled was never able to come back. if pronger's brain un-mushed itself tomorrow, they'd be handing him skates while doing cartwheels and opening bottles of champagne.
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Re: Chris Pronger

Postby Fire0nice228 on Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:55 pm

Its a grey area.. its pretty evident he's not coming back but there is really no way for him to retire but have the Flyers still be penalized with the cap hit.. But should they?? They would surely like to have him in their lineup and negotiated the deal in good faith that he would play, unknowing he would have a terrible injury.

However, IF he retired, would he 'get his money'? Or would they still be on the hook for the cap hit but not actually pay the dollars to him. I assumed players didnt get the remainder of their contract if they retired mid contract
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Re: Chris Pronger

Postby Pitts on Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:49 pm

Fire0nice228 wrote:However, IF he retired, would he 'get his money'? Or would they still be on the hook for the cap hit but not actually pay the dollars to him. I assumed players didnt get the remainder of their contract if they retired mid contract

Pretty certain over 35'ers get all their money due from the contract (at least under the "old" CBA).
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Re: Chris Pronger

Postby Sam's Drunk Dog on Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:48 pm

I should have posted that for the next 2-3 years they really won't be exploiting the loophole but if he still isn't back by then, than that is a different story.
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Re: Chris Pronger

Postby Sam's Drunk Dog on Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:01 pm

Seems his injury is due to eye problems causing concussion like symptoms.

http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/ph ... =195633401
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Re: Chris Pronger

Postby Pitts on Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:41 pm

I honestly had no clue about the eye injury! I thought he was suffering a concussion form a normal hit.
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Re: Chris Pronger

Postby Kovy27 on Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:17 am

Hey could wait until the end of the season, the Flyers could buy him out for a lower cap hit and then he could retire. He should go out on his terms, not the Flyers.

Great hockey player. Every team needs a Chris Pronger....even the Flyers.
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Re: Chris Pronger

Postby pensfan1989 on Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:17 pm

Honestly surprised the Islanders haven't tried to trade for him
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Re: Chris Pronger

Postby The Snapshot on Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:33 pm

pensfan1989 wrote:Honestly surprised the Islanders haven't tried to trade for him


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Re: Chris Pronger

Postby Great58 on Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:18 pm

Kovy27 wrote:Hey could wait until the end of the season, the Flyers could buy him out for a lower cap hit and then he could retire. He should go out on his terms, not the Flyers.


For a team as wealthy as the Flyers I think they will keep paying him the cash, keep him on LTIR and avoid the cap hit.
The buyout cap hit is nowhere near as friendly as I thought it would be.

From Capgeek.com
[quote]Chris Pronger is 38 years old on the buyout date of June 15, 2013, setting the buyout ratio at 2/3 and the total buyout cost at $8,100,000 spread over 8 years. His contract was originally valued at $34,550,000 beginning in 2010 and ending in 2017, with $12,150,000 remaining from the buyout year forward. The following is a season-by-season breakdown of the buyout. A negative buyout cap hit indicates a credit.

Buyout Details
SEASON BUYOUT CAP HIT
2013-14 -$1,051,786

2014-15 $1,948,214

2015-16 $5,373,214

2016-17 $5,373,214
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