sil wrote:"All three periods" my butt.
Bylsma's "extended look" equates to "We'll give you two mistakes until benc......wait, is your name Engellend"?
KG wrote:sil wrote:"All three periods" my butt.
Bylsma's "extended look" equates to "We'll give you two mistakes until benc......wait, is your name Engellend"?
All three periods?? what if it goes to OT??? all bets are off!![]()
Henry Hank wrote:I think they'll be pretty patient with Bennett. He's already showing that he belongs in the NHL as he's putting up some points and is holding his own in puck battles. The key thing is that he's only 21 and has little pro experience. He's a legitimate prospect. It's a little different than a chump like Tangradi who is several years older, has plenty of history of failure, and worst of all showed little to no improvement over the years.
Having said that, if Bennett goes eight games without putting up anymore points they'd probably drop him down again. I don't really see that happening because he's already shown that he can take advantage of opportunities, which other guys didn't do. Bennett is following the path to sticking in the NHL the way guys like Staal, Talbot, and Kennedy did in recent years.
Beveridge wrote:If Bylsma putting Bennet out in a 5 on 3 doesn't tell you anything, I'm not sure what would.
Henry Hank wrote:I think they'll be pretty patient with Bennett. He's already showing that he belongs in the NHL as he's putting up some points and is holding his own in puck battles. The key thing is that he's only 21 and has little pro experience. He's a legitimate prospect. It's a little different than a chump like Tangradi who is several years older, has plenty of history of failure, and worst of all showed little to no improvement over the years.
Having said that, if Bennett goes eight games without putting up anymore points they'd probably drop him down again. I don't really see that happening because he's already shown that he can take advantage of opportunities, which other guys didn't do. Bennett is following the path to sticking in the NHL the way guys like Staal, Talbot, and Kennedy did in recent years.
Defence21 wrote:Henry Hank wrote:I think they'll be pretty patient with Bennett. He's already showing that he belongs in the NHL as he's putting up some points and is holding his own in puck battles. The key thing is that he's only 21 and has little pro experience. He's a legitimate prospect. It's a little different than a chump like Tangradi who is several years older, has plenty of history of failure, and worst of all showed little to no improvement over the years.
Having said that, if Bennett goes eight games without putting up anymore points they'd probably drop him down again. I don't really see that happening because he's already shown that he can take advantage of opportunities, which other guys didn't do. Bennett is following the path to sticking in the NHL the way guys like Staal, Talbot, and Kennedy did in recent years.
I agree. Bennett might not remain on Malkin's line for every shift of the rest of the season, but his AHL days are over. There's nothing wrong with using line demotions as a way to teach a young player. And, let's be honest, his couple weeks with Sutter in a defense-first role are hardly the worst thing that could happen to a young offense-first forward.
So many people believe that a scoring prospect HAS to play on a scoring line to learn the game. Wrong. In fact, I believe more can be learned playing on lower lines, where a player doesn't have a superstar center to feed him the puck. There is nothing wrong with the way Bennett has been treated since his promotion.
As for Despres and Bortuzzo, let's see here....
Despres' handling, as someone mentioned above, is strikingly similar to that of Letang. Looking at how Letang has developed into a perennial Norris Trophy candidate, I think it's safe to say his early treatment might well have been more successful than not.
Bortuzzo's handling reminds me a lotof the way Scuderi's career began. He didn't get the ice time of other similar-aged defenders early in his career, but as time went on, he proved his way into a permanent roster spot and eventually a big paycheck. Seemed like it worked for him, no?
Could it be possible that the gradual process of easing players into the NHL rather than throwing them to the wolves on a nightly basis is, gasp, a sound coaching/player development strategy and not a successful attempt at angering the fanbase? No...can't be. Bylsma's sole goal is to anger the fanbase and not to sustain a successful franchise.
Hawkeynut wrote:If this team doesn't perform who is the first to get fired? Bylsma. So it only makes sense that he only focuses on winning NOW (especially in a short season) with what he deems are his best assets. Having 3 rookies in a veteran laden lineup presents alot of issues and mistakes at the wrong times can cost wins, so it only makes sense that Bylsma balances rookie experience versus veteran experience. Some of you make him out to being a Bennett/Depres hater. But ultimately the success of this team dictates the success of his career. So of course he is going to sit rookies when the rest of us armchair coaches would rather see them play.
columbia wrote:Defence21 wrote:Henry Hank wrote:I think they'll be pretty patient with Bennett. He's already showing that he belongs in the NHL as he's putting up some points and is holding his own in puck battles. The key thing is that he's only 21 and has little pro experience. He's a legitimate prospect. It's a little different than a chump like Tangradi who is several years older, has plenty of history of failure, and worst of all showed little to no improvement over the years.
Having said that, if Bennett goes eight games without putting up anymore points they'd probably drop him down again. I don't really see that happening because he's already shown that he can take advantage of opportunities, which other guys didn't do. Bennett is following the path to sticking in the NHL the way guys like Staal, Talbot, and Kennedy did in recent years.
I agree. Bennett might not remain on Malkin's line for every shift of the rest of the season, but his AHL days are over. There's nothing wrong with using line demotions as a way to teach a young player. And, let's be honest, his couple weeks with Sutter in a defense-first role are hardly the worst thing that could happen to a young offense-first forward.
So many people believe that a scoring prospect HAS to play on a scoring line to learn the game. Wrong. In fact, I believe more can be learned playing on lower lines, where a player doesn't have a superstar center to feed him the puck. There is nothing wrong with the way Bennett has been treated since his promotion.
As for Despres and Bortuzzo, let's see here....
Despres' handling, as someone mentioned above, is strikingly similar to that of Letang. Looking at how Letang has developed into a perennial Norris Trophy candidate, I think it's safe to say his early treatment might well have been more successful than not.
Bortuzzo's handling reminds me a lotof the way Scuderi's career began. He didn't get the ice time of other similar-aged defenders early in his career, but as time went on, he proved his way into a permanent roster spot and eventually a big paycheck. Seemed like it worked for him, no?
Could it be possible that the gradual process of easing players into the NHL rather than throwing them to the wolves on a nightly basis is, gasp, a sound coaching/player development strategy and not a successful attempt at angering the fanbase? No...can't be. Bylsma's sole goal is to anger the fanbase and not to sustain a successful franchise.
Bortuzzo appears to be on the correct path, but playing every night until the end of the season is not going to prepare him to be reliable (and relatively free to rookie mistakes) in the playoffs.
One could argue that if had played every game (in Engelland's place), that perhaps things would be different....but that's not what happened and they have to go with reality now. Hopefully Eaton can succeed and - better yet - they can bring in someone with a little more grit to pair with Niskanen.
Despres is obviously 1.) a much better hockey player and 2.) well further ahead in his development path. HE needs to be in the lineup just about every night, if they are going to rely on him in the playoffs.
Gaucho wrote:Pens are a contender. Rookies need to be eased into the lineup, not forced.
pcm wrote:Bennett needs to shoot more. Kid has only 8 shots so far.
Also, when did he switch to LW? He played RW at Denver. He shoots right... Seems like the Pens switched him to the off-wing position? Not sure why.
And didn't we switch Neal to his off-wing? We've got a lefty on the right and a righty on the left. Does Blysma have his head on backwards? (And yes I realize Neal worked just fine on RW last year, but that was more to accomodate Kunitz's boardwork on the left side, which is no longer applicable.)
pcm wrote:Bennett needs to shoot more. Kid has only 8 shots so far.
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