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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby Steve Dave on Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:38 pm

So...

Kunitz Crosby Dupuis
MacArthur Malkin Neal
Bennett Sutter Clowe
Cooke Vitale Adams
Glass
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby saints11 on Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:54 pm

I think the Leafs are more likely to move Kulemin than they are MacArthur. I would rather have Eric Fehr or Clowe than either one. We tend to get all giddy over MacArthur because of his success against us, not consistent enough. Clowe would be my first choice because he can play up and down the line-up. Clowe--Sutter--Fehr would be great and place Cooke on line 4.
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby Mr. Colby on Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:37 pm

Burmistrov?

Morrow?

Raffi Torres?

At any rate, I think 3rd line wing is atop our list of needs.

I wouldn't mind TK on the 4th line and Glass gone. At least TK can skate and actually spend portions of shifts in the offensive zone
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby DelPen on Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:55 pm

Matt Hendricks would looks good in the bottom 6 too.
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby Pucks_and_Pols on Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:08 pm

Hendricks would be an awesome addition. Any chance the Caps actually do move him at the deadline?
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby mikey287 on Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:12 pm

RxBandit66 wrote:
mikey287 wrote:They aren't as aggressive as they used to be on the PK it seems...so, one way to curtail aggressiveness is to put slow players out... :?:


I've always said that if your PK sucks, then at least it should be aggressive and try to score shorthanded. That way it can get back a few of the goals it allows.


Don't say that. It turns a molehill's worth of a problems into a mountain. You'll never ever cancel out enough PP goals to make it remotely sustainable. You just have to get better at the PK, that's all.

Pucks_and_Pols wrote:Hendricks would be an awesome addition. Any chance the Caps actually do move him at the deadline?


Yeah, there's a chance of that.
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby puckeye on Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:07 pm

great topic Mikey, couldn't agree more that 3rd could use upgrading. love Sutter's game but the guy needs help

Clowe is a no-brainer but doubt that he beomes available

personally I would rather see Jeffrey play with 71 & 18 and put Bennett with Sutter & Cooke

like to see Shero trade for Boll from columbus to replace Glass & also allows Engelland to sit
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby Sigwolf on Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:25 pm

puckeye wrote:personally I would rather see Jeffrey play with 71 & 18 and put Bennett with Sutter & Cooke


As Sheila Broflovski would say... "What, what what???!"

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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby MRandall25 on Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:27 pm

Jeffrey has been mud. Good getting 2 assists today, but he's been pretty awful all around lately.
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby Rylan on Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:29 pm

Sigwolf wrote:
puckeye wrote:personally I would rather see Jeffrey play with 71 & 18 and put Bennett with Sutter & Cooke


As Sheila Broflovski would say... "What, what what???!"

Spoiler:


Sounds like a chicken.
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby KG on Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:31 pm

RxBandit66 wrote:
Pavel Bure wrote:Ryan Clowe. Do it.


This. Replace TK with Clowe and replace Engelland with Smid and they're good to go.


That would be perfect...
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby Sigwolf on Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:35 pm

Rylan wrote:
Sigwolf wrote:
puckeye wrote:personally I would rather see Jeffrey play with 71 & 18 and put Bennett with Sutter & Cooke


As Sheila Broflovski would say... "What, what what???!"

Spoiler:


Sounds like a chicken.


Appropriate, given that's what you may as well use that to pick lines if you're going to put Jeffrey on the second line over Bennet...

:scared: :lol:
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby pens_CT on Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:38 pm

KG wrote:
RxBandit66 wrote:
Pavel Bure wrote:Ryan Clowe. Do it.


This. Replace TK with Clowe and replace Engelland with Smid and they're good to go.


That would be perfect...

Good luck in getting that combination.
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby pcm on Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:14 pm

Jeffrey has been playing exactly like a young 3rd liner should, which is to say, he's decent most of time, has flashes of goodness, contributes every few games, and disappears a few games.

He provides an improving faceoff presence, he's good defensively, he can PK, play 2nd PP. He's scoring more than TK or anyone on the 4th line, in less TOI. Unless you were expecting him to replace Malkin the past few games, not sure how one could be disappointed with Jeffrey at this point. He should definitely replace Glass in the lineup when Malkin returns.
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby Froggy on Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:25 pm

jeffery is a 13th forward/ahl player. he is certainly not a guy i want anywhere near the top 2 lines.
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby pcm on Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:30 pm

Except that right now he is our 8th best healthy forward.
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby Desiato on Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:35 pm

I agree. Next to a defensive D, a big power forward for Sutter is the next most important need. I like Clowe, but I'd really like Shero to surprise us with someone like Clowe was a few seasons ago. Someone with size, toughness and lots of vigor.
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby columbia on Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:51 pm

Jeffrey is a functional plugin.
If you're complaining about his performance, then you're just not realistic.

Ideally, he won't be in the lineup, but I appreciate what he can bring when it happens.
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby pcm on Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:00 pm

I would love, love, love to see Shero pick up Gabriel Bourque from Nashville. Though seeing as he leads the team in goals, and they're totally goal-strapped... it's probably impossible.

But the thinking is that perhaps Shero can find a guy who is not a rental, who can replace TK or Cooke next season as well. Glencross has been mentioned. Nick Foligno would be a possibility. Steve Ott. (Though any of those guys would probably cost Despres). Morrow would be a rental to be re-signed if he works out (same age as Kuntiz fwiw). Or how about Ryan Malone? Get TB to eat a million or two from his contract... Send them Maata or Dumoulin + TK...
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby mikey287 on Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:11 pm

Nick Foligno is not a possibility.
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby Sigwolf on Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:39 pm

columbia wrote:Jeffrey is a functional plugin.
If you're complaining about his performance, then you're just not realistic.

Ideally, he won't be in the lineup, but I appreciate what he can bring when it happens.



I don't know that anyone was doubting that, and I don't have any problem with how Jeffrey has played. I was questioning the sanity of saying Bennett should be on the third line so that Jeffrey could play on the second with Malkin...
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby sniper on Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:27 pm

They need to find another Dupuis. I have no idea who that is, but someone like him is who they need to find.
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby puckeye on Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:58 pm

not saying that Jeffrey is better player thanBennett, love what I see from Bennett

Just saying that moving Bennett to 3rd line may balance the lines out & add more scoring ability to Sutter's line who most times out there is playing against top offensive lines

Jeffrey can add faceoff presence to Malkin line, size, defensive awareness and enough offensive ability to supplement 71 & 18. Bennett & Sutter form a dangerous 3rd line while Malkin & Neil continue to carry the 2nd line

ideally later Shero finds a winger to fill the Jeffrey 2nd line spot in trade market
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby MRandall25 on Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:07 am

Jeffrey is not, and will probably never be, a 2nd liner.
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Re: Get Sutter a Winger

Postby Lt. Dish on Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:15 am

Mr. Colby wrote:Burmistrov?

Morrow?

Raffi Torres?

At any rate, I think 3rd line wing is atop our list of needs.

I wouldn't mind TK on the 4th line and Glass gone. At least TK can skate and actually spend portions of shifts in the offensive zone


"But...but...Matt Cooke Raffi Torres!!!"

8-)
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