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Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby headh on Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:39 pm

Pittsburgh owns a 15-4 record when Despres suits up this season and a mark of 4-4 when he doesn't play. The source is Post Gazette.

I am not a hockey expert but I don't see any current defensemen on the Penguin roster with a better overall game. Obviously Letang is the best offensively but my eyes tell me that Depres has zero glaring weaknesses and possesses many strengths.

At 6' 4" 215 lbs he may be the biggest guy on the team. He makes excellent decisions with the puck. He makes great passes. He handles the puck as well as any both in his own end and on the rush. He makes excellent decisions about wether to join the rush or stay at home. He is aggressive at pinching in without compromising on discipline.

What exactly can't this guy do?
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby MRandall25 on Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:41 pm

I think it's pure coincidence the team's record is better when he plays. Just like how the team is undefeated with Mark Eaton.

Cool stat? Sure. Does it mean anything? Not really.
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:42 pm

No.
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby Gaucho on Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:42 pm

No.
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby MRandall25 on Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:44 pm

Also,


No.
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby Kovy27 on Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:46 pm

Hell No.
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby Hawkeynut on Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:48 pm

Beau Bennet says hi
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby headh on Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:53 pm

Hawkeynut wrote:Beau Bennet says hi



They are both +8 and both first round draft picks

If someone offered me Bennet in a trade and I had to give up Despres I'd decline.
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby NeddieVedder on Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:53 pm

Well there were Malkin and Staal, for two.
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby headh on Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:55 pm

NeddieVedder wrote:Well there were Malkin and Staal, for two.



Malkin may be the best player in the world so I concede him.

Staal is currently being outplayed by Sutter and there are articles about how Shero fleeced the Canes
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby Gaucho on Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:56 pm

Shero did not fleece the Canes. It's BS.

Also, please don't bring up +/- in a serious hockey discussion.
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby Gaucho on Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:57 pm

That said, I probably wouldn't trade Despres for Bennett either.
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby columbia on Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:57 pm

+/- would be a good screen name.
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby slappybrown on Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:59 pm

lol @ despres being a "better" prospect and/or player than Staal.
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby Froggy on Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:04 pm

Was Crosby ever really a prospect?

And no. Despres is pretty good now, and could turn out to be really good... But saying anything more is premature
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby DelPen on Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:05 pm

Letang would still rank higher than Despres and Bennett at this point in time.
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby JoseCuervo on Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:07 pm

So we have a sample size of 19 games with Despres and a sample size of 8 games with Despres. If we factor in different personnel per game and different opponents with different line-ups since Despres isn't the only variable involved, we find this statistic is pretty meaningless.

Spoiler:
Just for kicks and because I'm bored at work, I just ran a quick ANOVA which shows no statistical difference (p-value = 0.143) with Despres in/out of the lineup
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby shmenguin on Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:08 pm

best player shero has drafted not named staal, probably.
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby DelPen on Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:13 pm

shmenguin wrote:best player shero has drafted not named staal, probably.


That has played in the NHL? Perhaps. It's tight with Bennett though.
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby MRandall25 on Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:18 pm

JoseCuervo wrote:So we have a sample size of 19 games with Despres and a sample size of 8 games with Despres. If we factor in different personnel per game and different opponents with different line-ups since Despres isn't the only variable involved, we find this statistic is pretty meaningless.

Spoiler:
Just for kicks and because I'm bored at work, I just ran a quick ANOVA which shows no statistical difference (p-value = 0.143) with Despres in/out of the lineup


Haha pulling out the statistics machine. I like.
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby pens2005 on Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:30 pm

Should be 16-4, right?
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby penny lane on Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:37 pm

Kristopher Letang says "what about me?"

Is Day pray even playing tonight? :)
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby JS© on Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:42 pm

headh wrote:Pittsburgh owns a 15-4 record when Despres suits up this season and a mark of 4-4 when he doesn't play. The source is Post Gazette.

I am not a hockey expert but I don't see any current defensemen on the Penguin roster with a better overall game. Obviously Letang is the best offensively but my eyes tell me that Depres has zero glaring weaknesses and possesses many strengths.

At 6' 4" 215 lbs he may be the biggest guy on the team. He makes excellent decisions with the puck. He makes great passes. He handles the puck as well as any both in his own end and on the rush. He makes excellent decisions about wether to join the rush or stay at home. He is aggressive at pinching in without compromising on discipline.

What exactly can't this guy do?


Get in the lineup

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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby Pitts on Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:45 pm

Malkin was drafted before Crosby and was, also, never really a prospect.
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Re: Is Simon Depres the best prospect since Crosby

Postby Gaucho on Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:51 pm

Pitts wrote:Malkin was never really a prospect.


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