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2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby beLIEve on Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:22 am

For those STHs that haven't seen it yet, the invoices for this seasons playoffs and next seasons are up on your My Penguins account. Standard stuff: 20% deposit. First right of refusal for playoffs this year. Etc.

My seats that are $53.50 this season went up to $56 for next season. This is also pretty standard as I've seen the price raised approximately $3 every season. I imagine that increase will continue every year there continues to be a waiting list and demand for ticket resale.

The only information I haven't seen yet is prices per round for this years' playoffs and a due date for this 20% deposit. I imagine both are coming soon. The due date for the deposit is usually April 1, but I imagine it'll be pushed back several weeks with the season extending well into April this year.
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby suzinpgh on Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:14 am

These yearly bumps are unsustainable. Things won't always be this good. When STH's start to drop out due to cost commitment, and waiting list folks balk at taking their turn when the time comes, they will realize that they've backed themselves in to a corner. That could be in three years, five years, or whenever, but it will happen.

Apparently, no lessons learned from the lockout on how to treat fans.
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby FreeCandy44 on Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:19 am

1% problems?
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:20 am

I agree that its going to happen. I seriously question whether a significant number of those people on the waiting list realize what those tickets are going to cost them. I'm wondering whether its worth us keeping them moving forward through a few more increases or not.
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby pittsoccer33 on Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:33 am

As long as there is a profitable mark up in the secondary market you better believe they will raise the season ticket holder prices.
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby newarenanow on Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:39 am

I don't think a 5% increase is that bad. Costs go up as well each and every year.
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby newarenanow on Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:40 am

suzinpgh wrote:These yearly bumps are unsustainable. Things won't always be this good. When STH's start to drop out due to cost commitment, and waiting list folks balk at taking their turn when the time comes, they will realize that they've backed themselves in to a corner. That could be in three years, five years, or whenever, but it will happen.

Apparently, no lessons learned from the lockout on how to treat fans.


In this type of business, you get when the getten is good, because when things are bad, they will take a hit. I remember the early 2000s.
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby moondart on Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:38 pm

newarenanow wrote:I don't think a 5% increase is that bad. Costs go up as well each and every year.


Mine went up nearly 9%. Its pretty ballsy too considering the shortened season. Isn't the cap going down too? Has the cap gone up 60% over the last 5 yrs?

Their costs must be out of control at 60% over 5 years.

60% increase in last 5 yrs....very ballsy indeed.
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby skullman80 on Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:42 pm

When the sellout streak ends, and the waiting lists drops, they will lower prices again I'm sure.

Right now they figure they might as well squeeze every penny, and I can't say that I fault them for that. They are running a business.
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby Rylan on Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:49 pm

skullman80 wrote:When the sellout streak ends, and the waiting lists drops, they will lower prices again I'm sure.

Right now they figure they might as well squeeze every penny, and I can't say that I fault them for that. They are running a business.


How dare the Penguins for needing to make money.
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby beLIEve on Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:59 pm

moondart wrote:
newarenanow wrote:I don't think a 5% increase is that bad. Costs go up as well each and every year.

Has the cap gone up 60% over the last 5 yrs?


No, but it has gone up ~60% over the last 6 years...
44.0 million in 2006-2007
70.2 million in 2012-2013

44*1.6 = 70.4
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby newarenanow on Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:25 pm

moondart wrote: Its pretty ballsy too considering the shortened season.


What does this season have to do with next?
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby Jopaz on Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:21 pm

A waiting list question - figured I could just put it in here:
Are people on the waiting list for a specific price level (like Upper Level End Zone, Double Attack), or are you just there for the next available seats? If you get called and then you do not want those seats, can you stay in your slot waiting for something different/less expensive, or do you go to the end of the line?
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby newarenanow on Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:09 pm

Jopaz wrote:A waiting list question - figured I could just put it in here:
Are people on the waiting list for a specific price level (like Upper Level End Zone, Double Attack), or are you just there for the next available seats? If you get called and then you do not want those seats, can you stay in your slot waiting for something different/less expensive, or do you go to the end of the line?


You can mark your preferance I believe. But if you do not like the seats available when they call, you can pass them up and still be in the front of the list.
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby PensHckyFan79 on Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:36 pm

I'm curious now given the info from NAN. Say you have season tickets but you want to move seats, can you do so freely or do you have to wait for seats from other Season ticket holders to open up? I was mainly thinking about someone in cheap seats wanting to come down closer to the glass, but I guess it could go the other way if the premium seats were getting to expensive.
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby moondart on Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:08 pm

newarenanow wrote:
What does this season have to do with next?


You should work for the Pirates...
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby moondart on Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:09 pm

So, since the salary cap will probably be going down next season we get no increase the season after next?
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby moondart on Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:16 pm

suzinpgh wrote:These yearly bumps are unsustainable. Things won't always be this good. When STH's start to drop out due to cost commitment, and waiting list folks balk at taking their turn when the time comes, they will realize that they've backed themselves in to a corner. That could be in three years, five years, or whenever, but it will happen.

Apparently, no lessons learned from the lockout on how to treat fans.


I'm free market right winger...trust me. But, yes, it does leave a bad taste in your mouth...

Pens: "give us paid for arena"

Fans: "yeah, give em a paid for arena"

City gives em a paid for arena and parking concessions, etc...

Pens "ok...now bend over fans...SUCKERS!! (THREE 1ST RD PLAYOFF EXITS. AND 60% INCREASES LATER)
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby columbia on Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:38 pm

moondart wrote:
newarenanow wrote:
What does this season have to do with next?


You should work for the Pirates...


:lol:
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby Great58 on Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:04 pm

moondart wrote:
suzinpgh wrote:These yearly bumps are unsustainable. Things won't always be this good. When STH's start to drop out due to cost commitment, and waiting list folks balk at taking their turn when the time comes, they will realize that they've backed themselves in to a corner. That could be in three years, five years, or whenever, but it will happen.

Apparently, no lessons learned from the lockout on how to treat fans.


I'm free market right winger...trust me. But, yes, it does leave a bad taste in your mouth...

Pens: "give us paid for arena"

Fans: "yeah, give em a paid for arena"

City gives em a paid for arena and parking concessions, etc...

Pens "ok...now bend over fans...SUCKERS!! (THREE 1ST RD PLAYOFF EXITS. AND 60% INCREASES LATER)

Don't like the product? Don't buy it.
Or consider you are paying a premium for the opportunity for playoff tickets for their next Cup run. Go and watch, or sell for a profit. Your choice. If neither is appealing to you, give up your season tickets. It's all free market.
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby Fire0nice228 on Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:11 pm

pittsoccer33 wrote:As long as there is a profitable mark up in the secondary market you better believe they will raise the season ticket holder prices.



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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby moondart on Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:22 pm

Great58 wrote:
moondart wrote:
suzinpgh wrote:These yearly bumps are unsustainable. Things won't always be this good. When STH's start to drop out due to cost commitment, and waiting list folks balk at taking their turn when the time comes, they will realize that they've backed themselves in to a corner. That could be in three years, five years, or whenever, but it will happen.

Apparently, no lessons learned from the lockout on how to treat fans.


I'm free market right winger...trust me. But, yes, it does leave a bad taste in your mouth...

Pens: "give us paid for arena"

Fans: "yeah, give em a paid for arena"

City gives em a paid for arena and parking concessions, etc...

Pens "ok...now bend over fans...SUCKERS!! (THREE 1ST RD PLAYOFF EXITS. AND 60% INCREASES LATER)

Don't like the product? Don't buy it.
Or consider you are paying a premium for the opportunity for playoff tickets for their next Cup run. Go and watch, or sell for a profit. Your choice. If neither is appealing to you, give up your season tickets. It's all free market.


Gee...I've never seen anyone post that response on here before to this subject. Lol.

For the zillionth time: its not a matter of if the Pens "could" do this...its a matter of "how" they did this. They can charge $1000 per ticket if they want. Its a matter of "class" on how they whined, got what they wanted for free, and now clean house at the expense of those who pulled for em.
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby Rylan on Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:25 pm

Don't indulge moondart people. It won't end well for either of you. Just let it gooooooooooooooooooo.
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby columbia on Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:26 pm

If they don't charge those high ticket prices, they won't be able to spend $60-70M on player salaries.
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Re: 2013-2014 Season Ticket Invoices

Postby moondart on Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:28 pm

columbia wrote:If they don't charge those high ticket prices, they won't be able to spend $60-70M on player salaries.


They also got control of the parking, and jacked that up to $20 too
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