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Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby penny lane on Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:03 pm

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/alexei-koval ... -1.1206672

A Kovalev was the first russian penguin who absolutely dazzled me & the crowds.
In 99-00, he must have had 6 HT... In 99, it was Kovy who scared #1 seeded devils into a huge play-off upset. Jaromir sealed the deal in game six.
All the best to my favorite moonwalker!
a goal from mario's return game~ over cujo's short side.
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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby Big Easy Pens Fan on Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:13 pm

Enjoy your retirement Alex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby DudeMan2766 on Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:13 pm

I Just posted in NHR, didnt see this. He was one of my favorites as well. I was at the moonwalk game after getting awesome $20 student rush tickets. Another of his favorite goals of mine I saw was in 98 Game 6 vs Toronto, he just kept the puck in the zone then skated to the top of the far circle and put a laser of a snap shot into a square between the goalies left shoulder and the corner post that was no bigger than the size of the puck. Just so so smooth.
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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby no name on Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:15 pm

That shot was his bread and butter, no one could wrist a puck like he could.
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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby penny lane on Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:19 pm

DudeMan2766 wrote:I Just posted in NHR, didnt see this. He was one of my favorites as well. I was at the moonwalk game after getting awesome $20 student rush tickets. Another of his favorite goals of mine I saw was in 98 Game 6 vs Toronto, he just kept the puck in the zone then skated to the top of the far circle and put a laser of a snap shot into a square between the goalies left shoulder and the corner post that was no bigger than the size of the puck. Just so so smooth.


So sorry, I was waiting to see if somebody posted news about Kovalev making it official.

*when he was with the canadiens, i enjoyed watching Brooks and him battle.

more video-including moonwalk on fly boys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJU57cZZVpU
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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby Steve on Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:24 pm

Best stick handler I've ever seen. Just tremendous.
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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby thepittman on Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:27 pm

Will be missed
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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby pugilist13 on Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:27 pm

I thought he retired a few years ago. Flying off into the sunset.
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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby Lt. Dish on Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:51 pm

I just loved him--still do. I wanted him to be so awesome during his recent stint that Ray would have to rethink his plan not to resign him. But that was just me being selfish and unrealistic.

I remember being just crushed when we had to dump his salary and send him back to the NYR. But, hey, you have to give to get; how else were we going to acquire Richard Lintner and Rico Fata?

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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby Shakes on Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:23 pm

I'll choose to ignore the AK72 era. He's close to a Hall of Famer, but probably needed a few more points and/or 1 or 2 more rings.


http://www.hockey-reference.com/leaders/points_career.html

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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby relantel on Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:35 pm

Like the MR8 return, the AK72 experiment dropped him below 1.0 ppg as a Pen - 0.969 now - Others still in the ppg club:
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Lemieux
Jagr
Crosby
Francis
Stevens
Malkin
Apps
Coffey
Quinn
Cullen
Larouche
Tocchet
Nedved
Zubov
Palffy
*Sneep (one game wonder)
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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby mikey287 on Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:51 pm

Shakes wrote:I'll choose to ignore the AK72 era. He's close to a Hall of Famer, but probably needed a few more points and/or 1 or 2 more rings.


http://www.hockey-reference.com/leaders/points_career.html



HOF Talent, not a HOF career. Not by any stretch of the imagination. It's not even about rings, he could have gotten 4 rings, he'd still be pretty far out.
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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby SolidSnake on Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:53 pm

Best wrist shot ever.
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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby Dickie Dunn on Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:57 pm

mikey287 wrote:
Shakes wrote:I'll choose to ignore the AK72 era. He's close to a Hall of Famer, but probably needed a few more points and/or 1 or 2 more rings.


http://www.hockey-reference.com/leaders/points_career.html



HOF Talent, not a HOF career. Not by any stretch of the imagination. It's not even about rings, he could have gotten 4 rings, he'd still be pretty far out.


That's pretty much my sentiment as well. It's not an easy one to make, but you could argue that Kovalev was the most talented player to ever play the game. His puck skills were obscene. The production never matched the talent.
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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby Penspal on Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:59 pm

One of my all time favorite Pens, loved the shot, the deke and even the big hit. He could deke guys by toe fakes and used his heels better than any other skater e.v.e.r.
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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby mikey287 on Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:00 pm

He ranks highly in technical skill, sure. There's more to "skill" than just that of course, which, as you aptly note, contributed to the lack of production.

Alexander Mogilny the same way before him, Alexander Semin the same way after him. World class technical skills, lots lacking in the rest of their game. Semin is by far the most complete player of the trio, that tells you all you need to know.
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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby newarenanow on Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:03 pm

Good luck Kovy!
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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby Dickie Dunn on Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:06 pm

mikey287 wrote:He ranks highly in technical skill, sure. There's more to "skill" than just that of course, which, as you aptly note, contributed to the lack of production.

Alexander Mogilny the same way before him, Alexander Semin the same way after him. World class technical skills, lots lacking in the rest of their game. Semin is by far the most complete player of the trio, that tells you all you need to know.


Without a doubt, which is why I would argue about his skill level, but not about his place in hockey history. He's light years away from ever being considered one of the best players in NHL history. There's so many elements of the game outside of pure skill that factor into creating great players and its in those areas that Kovy was lacking.

Regardless of that, watching his Warrior Hockey videos on Youtube is always impressive.
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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby DudeMan2766 on Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:29 pm

I remember hearing the story that he would bore out the center of pucks and fill them with lead. Thats what he used to practice with and after so long a regular puck felt like nothing, thats how we could fire the puck so effortlessly. As a kid I always wanted to do that after I heard it but ever had the resources lol
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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby Stevens25 on Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:56 pm

He was a bright spot for a very terrible team for a long time.
I hope he enjoys his retirement.
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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby Shakes on Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:39 pm

mikey287 wrote:
Shakes wrote:I'll choose to ignore the AK72 era. He's close to a Hall of Famer, but probably needed a few more points and/or 1 or 2 more rings.


http://www.hockey-reference.com/leaders/points_career.html



HOF Talent, not a HOF career. Not by any stretch of the imagination. It's not even about rings, he could have gotten 4 rings, he'd still be pretty far out.


Fair enough. I don't claim to a be history guy (admire those who are). Besides significantly more playoff success, what's the difference between him and say, Nieuwendyk, for example. Was Kovy just that much worse in other aspects of the game?

Serious question. I guess he is AlMo, but I think of him as a way better all-around player. Maybe just biased.
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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby thepittman on Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:39 pm

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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby RxBandit66 on Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:39 pm

Always one of my favorites. He began this season with three points on opening day, and I thought maybe we'd be able to enjoy watching him play a little bit longer, but it was not to be. Good luck Alex!!
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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby relantel on Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:42 pm

Code: Select all
Joe Nieuwendyk   1157   564   562   1126   0.487467589   0.48573898   0.973206569

Alexei Kovalev   1302   428   596   1024   0.328725038   0.457757296   0.786482335

(numbers before current season)

Nieuwendyk - more goals, points, in fewer games played.
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Re: Alexei Kovalev retires

Postby pfim on Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:52 pm

Shakes wrote:
Serious question. I guess he is AlMo, but I think of him as a way better all-around player. Maybe just biased.


About 130 goals, one Conn Smythe, two Cups.
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