jprolley wrote:waived by carolina already lol
He'll be claimed again. If there was no interest, there'd have been no other claims on him and Carolina could've sent him right down to Charlotte.
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jprolley wrote:waived by carolina already lol
tfrizz wrote:jprolley wrote:waived by carolina already lol
He'll be claimed again. If there was no interest, there'd have been no other claims on him and Carolina could've sent him right down to Charlotte.
mikey287 wrote:tfrizz wrote:jprolley wrote:waived by carolina already lol
He'll be claimed again. If there was no interest, there'd have been no other claims on him and Carolina could've sent him right down to Charlotte.
I don't believe that's true on either front.
13.22 When a Club claims a Player on Regular, Re-Entry or Unconditional Waivers, and, subsequently, in the same season it requests Waivers on the same Player and the original owning Club is the successful and only Club making a Waiver claim, then the original owning Club shall be entitled to Loan such Player to a club in another league within thirty days without further Waivers being asked; provided that such Player has not participated in ten or more NHL Games (cumulative) and remained on an NHL roster more than thirty days (cumulative) following such successful claim.
mikey287 wrote:But Carolina, for these purposes, is not the "original owning club", right? That would be Nashville, would it not?
mikey287 wrote:But Carolina, for these purposes, is not the "original owning club", right? That would be Nashville, would it not?
mikey287 wrote:I think you're overthinking it tfrizz. In any event, Carolina's rights as the "original owning club" if such a designation actually exists in the terms you're referring to, would have expired because he spent 10 NHL games AND 30 NHL days on a different pro roster than their own. That's why he needs to be waived again. Quite simply, if the language was as you imply, Boychuk could have been claimed and sent down in the same day. Carolina had to waive him to send him down, implying that Nashville, for these purposes, is the "original owning club" or "prior club"...
Before the Hurricanes could send Boychuk back to Charlotte, he would have to go on waivers for a fourth time.
Should the Hurricanes begin that process in the coming days, Nashville, as the team which most recently lost him, would have the exclusive right to reclaim him and assign him directly to its AHL affiliate in Milwaukee. Any other team that claimed him would need waivers to make such assignment, which is the situation Carolina finds itself in now.
mikey287 wrote:This is from the Charlotte Checkers (Carolina's AHL affiliate themselves) re: BoychukBefore the Hurricanes could send Boychuk back to Charlotte, he would have to go on waivers for a fourth time.
Should the Hurricanes begin that process in the coming days, Nashville, as the team which most recently lost him, would have the exclusive right to reclaim him and assign him directly to its AHL affiliate in Milwaukee. Any other team that claimed him would need waivers to make such assignment, which is the situation Carolina finds itself in now.
What I infer from that is that it's only the most recent prior club. Otherwise, we would be the "original owning club", right? Because he didn't stick with Nashville long enough.
MRandall25 wrote:Key word, I guess, is 2005 CBA. Possible that it could have changed?
MRandall25 wrote:And there's no re-entry waivers, correct?
mikey287 wrote:Right, no re-entry waivers. And yes, only 24-hour waivers.
And yes, confusing but really, this is quite a rarity. And it seems pretty fair all things considered. It's just unlikely that a third team ever jumps in like Nashville did. So, now Nashville is in position to claim him and send him down if they need the help down there.
tfrizz wrote:I can't see any reason Nashville wouldn't claim him back. If someone else puts a claim in and messed up the "straight to Milwaukee" track, they can just drop him back on waivers.
mikey287 wrote:tfrizz wrote:I can't see any reason Nashville wouldn't claim him back. If someone else puts a claim in and messed up the "straight to Milwaukee" track, they can just drop him back on waivers.
I don't know if they need help in Milwaukee or not...but if they don't have major injuries down there, why would they? There's clearly interest from another team to have him in the minors, they would really have to have a pressing need. If they were just renting him at the NHL level to see if he could usurp the legendary Gabriel Bourque for team-scoring lead, then they'll just be happy to ditch the contract.
The loser could easily acquire Bobby Butler for a song and not miss a beat...
EDIT: If anything, Carolina should be last to get their own player back for the purposes of assigning him to the minors, right? Teams that want to use him in the NHL should have priority. The Union would see it that way at least. Boychuk is getting an NHL paycheck all this time...
mikey287 wrote:Well, I'd say that's good for him, right?
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