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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby redwill on Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:30 pm

"The Republicans in Arkansas passed the strictest abortion law ever ... They say in the bill, 'Life begins when your sister gets drunk.'"
- Bill Maher
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby columbia on Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:09 pm

This is very interesting....

Conflict Kitchen is a take-out restaurant that only serves cuisine from countries with which the United States is in conflict. The food is served out of a take-out style storefront that rotates identities every six months to highlight another country. Each iteration of the project is augmented by events, performances, and discussions that seek to expand the engagement the public has with the culture, politics, and issues at stake within the focus country. These events have included live international Skype dinner parties between citizens of Pittsburgh and young professionals in Tehran, Iran; documentary filmmakers in Kabul, Afghanistan; and community radio activists in Caracas, Venezuela.


http://www.conflictkitchen.org/


It's in Schenley Plaza.
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby Pitt87 on Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:28 pm

Fascinating article from the WSJ today. More states have expanded the rights and allowances of gun owners since Newtown than have passed new restrictive legislation. Compare this to what your TV says is true:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324883604578398843653264474.html
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby DelPen on Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:41 am

Predictions on how far the market will drop today with only 88,000 jobs created in March? What's fascinating though is unemployment actually dropped to 7.6% because 496,000 people left the job market to drop to 63.3% which is the lowest in 35 years.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100618938
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby shafnutz05 on Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:45 am

DelPen wrote:Predictions on how far the market will drop today with only 88,000 jobs created in March? What's fascinating though is unemployment actually dropped to 7.6% because 496,000 people left the job market to drop to 63.3% which is the lowest in 35 years.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100618938


The unemployment rate is such a joke.
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby columbia on Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:48 am

It always has been.
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby ExPatriatePen on Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:05 am

columbia wrote:It always has been.


The calculations are much worse now.

There used to be some 'fudge factoring' but now it's just outlandish. Complete political posturing.
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby Factorial on Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:56 am

"Many People (esp here on lgp where they have an axe to grind) Have The Labor Force Participation Rate Story All Wrong":

The labor force participation rate fell to 63.3 percent in March. This is the lowest level since 1979.

Many are quick to attribute this falling rate due to workers leaving the labor force because they're so discouraged by the poor job market.

But this is only a small part of the story.

UBS's Drew Matus argues that this dropping participation rate is largely due to shifting American population dynamics. Specifically, we're running out of workers.



http://www.businessinsider.com/why-the- ... z2PbYnw1CW
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby Gaucho on Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:57 pm

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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby DelPen on Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:04 pm

Factorial wrote:"Many People (esp here on lgp where they have an axe to grind) Have The Labor Force Participation Rate Story All Wrong":

The labor force participation rate fell to 63.3 percent in March. This is the lowest level since 1979.

Many are quick to attribute this falling rate due to workers leaving the labor force because they're so discouraged by the poor job market.

But this is only a small part of the story.

UBS's Drew Matus argues that this dropping participation rate is largely due to shifting American population dynamics. Specifically, we're running out of workers.



http://www.businessinsider.com/why-the- ... z2PbYnw1CW


Or not
http://malthusiannectar.wordpress.com/2 ... icipation/
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby ExPatriatePen on Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:27 pm

Factorial wrote:"Many People (esp here on lgp where they have an axe to grind) Have The Labor Force Participation Rate Story All Wrong":

The labor force participation rate fell to 63.3 percent in March. This is the lowest level since 1979.

Many are quick to attribute this falling rate due to workers leaving the labor force because they're so discouraged by the poor job market.

But this is only a small part of the story.

UBS's Drew Matus argues that this dropping participation rate is largely due to shifting American population dynamics. Specifically, we're running out of workers.



http://www.businessinsider.com/why-the- ... z2PbYnw1CW


The Matus report originally published in January gives no citations for it's numbers. On top of that, his math doesn't add up.

I loved this quote though: "it seems possible that, given population trends, the labor force participation rate will remain close to 63.7 percent."

63%? Even backing out the number of families with a single working parent, that participation rate is abysmal.

From your same publication:

http://www.businessinsider.com/march-la ... ate-2013-4

http://static5.businessinsider.com/imag ... -march.png
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby columbia on Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:01 am

Margaret Thatcher died.
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby shafnutz05 on Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:10 am

RIP Iron Lady

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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby Gaucho on Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:25 am

Nathan McGrath ‏@NathanMcGrathSF 49s
Ex-Prime Minister Baroness Thatcher dies http://bbc.in/16HWcnt Unreported truth is that majority of UK Citizens will celebrate.
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby shafnutz05 on Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:29 am

In my experience, 90% of the nasty comments after prominent political figures die come from the left. Both sides have the extremists that will make an ass out of themselves, but it seems to be much more accepted on a mainstream level when prominent conservatives pass away.

It's sad, but certainly expected.
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby Gaucho on Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:29 am

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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby Troy Loney on Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:31 am

shafnutz05 wrote:In my experience, 90% of the nasty comments after prominent political figures die come from the left. Both sides have the extremists that will make an ass out of themselves, but it seems to be much more accepted on a mainstream level when prominent conservatives pass away.

It's sad, but certainly expected.


lol
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby Gaucho on Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:33 am

shafnutz05 wrote:In my experience, 90% of the nasty comments after prominent political figures die come from the left. Both sides have the extremists that will make an ass out of themselves, but it seems to be much more accepted on a mainstream level when prominent conservatives pass away.

It's sad, but certainly expected.


Um... no, I don't think this is accurate.
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby shafnutz05 on Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:42 am

We can agree to disagree, just my honest opinion.

The funny thing is, looking back at Thatcher's tightening of civil liberties (and oh yes, she most certainly clamped down on that during her tenure), compare some of those actions with the most recent infringements on civil liberties:

1) Ramped up use of drone strikes

2) Increased use of domestic drones, including the possibility of using armed drones in domestic situations

3) Continued endorsement of the PATRIOT Act

4) Indefinite detention of US citizens (I believe Thatcher expanded it from 24 hours to four days)

5) Extraordinary rendition

6) Authorizing the targeted killing of American citizens without a warrant

7) The revelation that actual kill lists exist of said people targeted for assassination

8) Gitmo...still open

9) National Defense Authorization Act

The list goes on, but you get my point. I agree that Thatcher's infringements on civil liberties were unacceptable, but viewed through the prism of what we are experiencing now is pretty remarkable. And when was the last good protest song we heard.....4 1/2 years ago?
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Postby Puffymuffin on Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:47 am

Tears will be shed by many Brits, tears of joy that is.
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby columbia on Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:49 am

She was definitely more popular in the US.
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby shafnutz05 on Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:51 am

columbia wrote:She was definitely more popular in the US.


Most certainly, because the Cold War was a lot more important from an American perspective than it was to the Brits. Americans knew her as a staunch ally against a bitter enemy, but weren't affected by her domestic policies.
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby Gaucho on Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:09 am

shafnutz05 wrote:
columbia wrote: Americans knew her as a staunch ally against a bitter enemy.


Civl society? :wink:
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby ExPatriatePen on Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:13 am

shafnutz05 wrote:In my experience, 90% of the nasty comments after prominent political figures die come from the left. Both sides have the extremists that will make an ass out of themselves, but it seems to be much more accepted on a mainstream level when prominent conservatives pass away.

It's sad, but certainly expected.

I absolutely agree with this.

There are exceptions, I think when Fidel finally goes there will be a lot of celebrating, but in general you don't see the same level of nastiness when a Liberal icon dies. (see also: Ted Kennedy)
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Re: LGP Political Discussion Thread - Latest news at top

Postby Gaucho on Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:22 am

I reserve my nastiness to cryptofascists and far right extremists. :pop:
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