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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby mac5155 on Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:27 pm

My old man takes antidepressents. He's a normal person. I don't think he'd go off the deep end if he didn't take his meds. Maybe he'd get a little weird(er). point being not everyone on meds is a murderer.
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby Shyster on Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:57 pm

I started suffering panic attacks shortly after graduating from law school. I had an embarrassing experience where I got sick in a car and I started to experience high levels of anxiety when I would have to drive somewhere. I’m pretty much over it, but I still take a prescription SSRI for occasional anxiety. Does anyone think that would make be more likely to commit a gun crime?
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby DelPen on Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:06 pm

Shyster wrote:I started suffering panic attacks shortly after graduating from law school. I had an embarrassing experience where I got sick in a car and I started to experience high levels of anxiety when I would have to drive somewhere. I’m pretty much over it, but I still take a prescription SSRI for occasional anxiety. Does anyone think that would make be more likely to commit a gun crime?


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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby Shyster on Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:14 pm

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:lol: You know, I think you found a photograph that manages to perfectly capture the pure essence of just how much Joe Biden is a tool bag. I applaud you. I'm going to save that one.
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby Shyster on Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:30 pm

Language for the Manchin/Toomey deal is now available:

http://www.toomey.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=968
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby tifosi77 on Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:55 am

Haven't gotten totally stuck in this yet, but two thing immediately stood out.

1)"S. 649

To ensure that all individuals who should be prohibited from buying a firearm are listed in the national instant criminal background check system and require a background check for every firearm sale, and for other purposes." (Emphasis added)

So now I have to submit to a background check when I purchase a shotgun?

2) SECT 117. "Information collected under section 102(c)(3) of the NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007 (18 U.S.C. 922 note) to assist the Attorney General in enforcing section 922(g)(4) of title 18, United States Code, shall not be subject to the regulations promulgated under section 264(c) of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (42 U.S.C. 1320d-2 note)."

I don't regularly follow how legislation is drafted, but is it normal to exempt something from HIPAA requirements like this?
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby DelPen on Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:28 am

tifosi77 wrote:Haven't gotten totally stuck in this yet, but two thing immediately stood out.

1)"S. 649

To ensure that all individuals who should be prohibited from buying a firearm are listed in the national instant criminal background check system and require a background check for every firearm sale, and for other purposes." (Emphasis added)

So now I have to submit to a background check when I purchase a shotgun?

2) SECT 117. "Information collected under section 102(c)(3) of the NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007 (18 U.S.C. 922 note) to assist the Attorney General in enforcing section 922(g)(4) of title 18, United States Code, shall not be subject to the regulations promulgated under section 264(c) of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (42 U.S.C. 1320d-2 note)."

I don't regularly follow how legislation is drafted, but is it normal to exempt something from HIPAA requirements like this?


This would mean that if you somehow get some mental illness mark in the NICS system it is no longer a private record?
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby DropEmJayBird on Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:58 am

yay for laws!
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby mac5155 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:29 am

So my fiancee is the assistant manager at a walmart as some may know. Yesterday she alerted me to the fact that she received a DPMS Panther AR-15 in stock for $619. I flew up to her store to buy it, and was denied because my name on my license is misspelled. Un-freaking-believable.
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby DelPen on Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:59 am

A Walmart near me had a DPMS and a Bushmaster in stock yesterday too. Shelves still bare though for a lot of stuff including .22 LR ammo.
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby mac5155 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:49 am

They had one box of 22LR ammo that I bought for a few bucks.
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby tifosi77 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:13 am

I"ll be honest, not a lot of sympathy if you have a misspelled ID. That's an easy fix.

That said, I flew back from New Orleans last week with a license that had expired on the 7th. No worries; the ticket agent that checked our bags never once asked for my ID, and the TSA guy who passed us through security had my license upside down when he scribbled on my boarding pass. Laissez les bons temps rouler!
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby mac5155 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:43 am

There's 3 Ts in Matthew. It was the mean lady at the DMV that wouldnt change it. Its not like my first name is MAtthew and its spelled Machthew.
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby tifosi77 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:34 pm

Hahaha...... that's my name, too. (two 'T's also) :fist:

Altho that would be kinda cool to be named Machthew. (as in Mach 1)
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby mac5155 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:37 pm

She told me today that the manager working the background checks laughed when she was told that the other manager denied my sale, and to come back and they would sell it to me. However the gun sold this morning around 9:30 :(
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby DelPen on Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:49 pm

mac5155 wrote:She told me today that the manager working the background checks laughed when she was told that the other manager denied my sale, and to come back and they would sell it to me. However the gun sold this morning around 9:30 :(


I wouldn't accept your drivers license for the 4473 either, it's unfortunate but if they put it through with your name spelled wrong and you both sign it then you could get into some trouble if there is a crackdown on lying on those 4473's.
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby mac5155 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:53 pm

Well then I suppose I have 3 illegally purchased firearms :pop:
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby Shyster on Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:05 pm

It sucks you lost out on that good deal, but given the current political climate, I’m betting the employees at Wally World have been told from On High to deny any sale that would feature even the slightest irregularity.
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby mac5155 on Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:39 pm

Well... my fiancee is the assistant manager, and was standing right there. But still. I think the manager that denied it was just having a bad day and wanted to take it out on her coworker's significant other :pop:
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby Godric on Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:55 pm

Wooooo my brother just bought himself an 300 aac Blackout


Really fun weapon to shoot
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby Shyster on Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:11 pm

Is he going to get a suppressor for it too?
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby Godric on Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:18 pm

Shyster wrote:Is he going to get a suppressor for it too?


He could but I don't know, he has a class 3 license (i believe that's correct but could be wrong)

I don't think he will
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby viva la ben on Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:26 pm

I think i'll shoot out my barrels of my .22's sooner than running out of .22lr ammo
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby SoupOrSam on Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:15 pm

Godric wrote:
Shyster wrote:Is he going to get a suppressor for it too?


He could but I don't know, he has a class 3 license (i believe that's correct but could be wrong)

I don't think he will


... and then a 9 month application wait on top of it.
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Re: Where are my Gun Owners? (CCW related)

Postby Shyster on Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:19 pm

SoupOrSam wrote:... and then a 9 month application wait on top of it.

I must admit I've never looked into owning one, although I think I know someone who does have one. Is that the usual wait, or are they taking especially long as of late?
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