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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby relantel on Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:03 pm

It'sagreatdayforhockey! wrote:
JeffDFD wrote:Hey! Update this thread with the magic number to clinch the divi....oh wait...DONE!



Guess it's time for the Conference MN next? 16

Could be down to 15 with a MTL L/OTL

Aye, it is 15, Boston is max points of 74, MTL 73. BOS has 21 ROW, max 31; MTL has 22 ROW, max 31.
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby blackjack68 on Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:03 am

Bruins win tonight. Keeps it at 15?
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby relantel on Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:54 am

blackjack68 wrote:Bruins win tonight. Keeps it at 15?

aye.
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby relantel on Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:45 pm

Montreal now basis for 1 seed, as Boston (72) drops below their max (73). So MN for 1 seed falls only 3 to 12.
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby Mr. Colby on Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:56 am

Clinched over Ottawa.

4 for Toronto
11 for Boston
12 for Montreal
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby Saskunitz on Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:31 am

Mr. Colby wrote:Clinched over Ottawa.

4 for Toronto
11 for Boston
12 for Montreal


Doesn't matter. Pens have already clinched a top 2 seed. All that's left is 1st place,
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby pcmforless on Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:12 am

Saskunitz wrote:
Mr. Colby wrote:Clinched over Ottawa.

4 for Toronto
11 for Boston
12 for Montreal


Doesn't matter. Pens have already clinched a top 2 seed. All that's left is 1st place,


And those are the 3 teams that mathmatically can take the 1st place seed yet :)
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby beLIEve on Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:02 pm

Conference magic number: 8.

And just for fun, Flyers elimination magic number: 6.
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby relantel on Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:48 pm

beLIEve wrote:Conference magic number: 8.

And just for fun, Flyers elimination magic number: 6.

Boston can now only tie the Pens in ROW, and one more Pens ROW or Habs fail to ROW will accomplish the same. Boston at best can negate the head to head tiebreak with a regulation win (since the first game in the city with the extra game is tossed), but goal differential is 14 goals in the Pens favor. So the net effect is 6 to clinch over the Bruins. Montreal hosts the Flyers on Monday, and Boston hosts Ottawa. Assuming they both win, a Pens win in regulation over the Habs on Wednesday would reduce the magic number over the Habs to 3, and a Pens win after regulation would reduce it to 4.

All told, the only other teams Pens have not clinched the ROW tiebreak on: Toronto (max 30), Chicago (max 33) and Anaheim (Max 29 - a push - with no head to head, Pens would win the goal differential - have an 18 goal edge, +39 to +21)
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby beLIEve on Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:23 pm

Conference magic number technically 7. Though as pointed out above, its extremely likely the pens get the tie breaker over Boston.
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby MayIsForHockey on Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:26 pm

Now that Mtl lost to the Flyers...

IF the Pens beat Mtl on Wed in regulation or overtime...
The Pens would have 66 points and ROW=30.
Mtl would still have 57 points, with 5 games remaining - meaning 67 maximum points.
Mtl would still have ROW=23. Their max ROW would be 28 - which means the Pens would already own the tie-breaker.

The Pens would only need to tie Mtl.
Since Mtl can only get 67 points, the Pens' magic number over Mtl would be 1.

...IF the Pens were to win in regulation/overtime on Wed.
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby relantel on Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:40 am

MayIsForHockey wrote:Now that Mtl lost to the Flyers...

IF the Pens beat Mtl on Wed in regulation or overtime...
The Pens would have 66 points and ROW=30.
Mtl would still have 57 points, with 5 games remaining - meaning 67 maximum points.
Mtl would still have ROW=23. Their max ROW would be 28 - which means the Pens would already own the tie-breaker.

The Pens would only need to tie Mtl.
Since Mtl can only get 67 points, the Pens' magic number over Mtl would be 1.

...IF the Pens were to win in regulation/overtime on Wed.

If Montreal fails to win in Reg/OT, Pens will clinch the ROW tiebreaker. I.e. even if Mtl wins a shootout, Pens would still clinch tiebreak.
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby beLIEve on Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:23 pm

Pens can clinch the conference as early as Friday with wins over both Montreal and Boston.
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby relantel on Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:58 pm

The Leafs loss to Washington eliminated them from the #1 seed outright (in addition to removing the last team that had a chance to surpass the Pens current 29 ROW total) with a new max of 63 points (Pens at 64).

A regulation win over the Habs would reduce the number to clinch over them to 1 point.
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby blackjack68 on Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:05 pm

So was that a 4 point game?
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby relantel on Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:20 pm

MN for east down to 3 with Boston shootout loss to Sabres. Any win Friday by Pens will clinch 1 seed. (1 point to clinch over Montreal)
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby relantel on Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:22 pm

blackjack68 wrote:So was that a 4 point game?

It was a rare 5 point game in MN terms - normal 4 points but clinched the first tiebreaker so no longer need the +1 over them, hence from 6 down to 1 with respect to the Habs.
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby ExPatriatePen on Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:34 am

See of you can answer this question without looking it up:

Out of the last ten Presidents Cup Throphy winners, how many went on to win the Stanley Cup?
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby CERV96 on Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:39 am

ExPatriatePen wrote:See of you can answer this question without looking it up:

Out of the last ten Presidents Cup Throphy winners, how many went on to win the Stanley Cup?


Detroit in 08
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby ExPatriatePen on Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:45 am

CERV96 wrote:
ExPatriatePen wrote:See of you can answer this question without looking it up:

Out of the last ten Presidents Cup Throphy winners, how many went on to win the Stanley Cup?


Detroit in 08

Kind of interesting that only one out of ten was able to convert huh?
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby skullman80 on Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:54 am

Chicago has the Presidents trophy all but wrapped up, I'll take #1 seed in the east though.
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby CERV96 on Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:58 am

ExPatriatePen wrote:
CERV96 wrote:
ExPatriatePen wrote:See of you can answer this question without looking it up:

Out of the last ten Presidents Cup Throphy winners, how many went on to win the Stanley Cup?


Detroit in 08

Kind of interesting that only one out of ten was able to convert huh?


Yeah, some say it is a curse but they say the same about touching the conference trophies as well. Pens are 3-0 in the cup final when touching the trophy. I think Badger Bob was the one who pushed Mario to do it saying something like you never know if you are ever going to get back here again.
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby ExPatriatePen on Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:06 pm

CERV96 wrote:
ExPatriatePen wrote:
CERV96 wrote:
ExPatriatePen wrote:See of you can answer this question without looking it up:

Out of the last ten Presidents Cup Throphy winners, how many went on to win the Stanley Cup?


Detroit in 08

Kind of interesting that only one out of ten was able to convert huh?


Yeah, some say it is a curse but they say the same about touching the conference trophies as well. Pens are 3-0 in the cup final when touching the trophy. I think Badger Bob was the one who pushed Mario to do it saying something like you never know if you are ever going to get back here again.

Well, superstition is one thing. But I wouldn't put the fact that only one out of the last ten PC winners has won the SC in the superstition category.

That's a statistical ananomoly. IMHO anyway.
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby tfrizz on Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:18 pm

A win against the Bruins tomorrow night secures #1 in the East.
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Re: Magic Number Thread!

Postby sil on Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:20 pm

tfrizz wrote:A win against the Bruins tomorrow night secures #1 in the East.


And ANY kind of win to boot. Reg, OT, or SO.
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