shafnutz05 wrote:And as I've stated before...civil liberties have been eroding steadily for years, and the loss of privacy, etc has exponentially increased after 9/11. Now, many are advocating all gun owners being stored in a federal gun registry containing all of our personal information. And yet, after all of the infringements and "small steps" the federal government has taken to expand their executive power, it is completely unreasonable and paranoid to think eventual confiscation of guns deemed "unsafe" for personal use are an eventual result of forced gun registration.
The privacy issue is of concern and we agree on that. I can't predict the future, but the 2nd amendment is what irks me about that whole thing as I don't feel it applies anymore. People seem to want to use the Constitution for what I sometimes think are false reasons. Freedom of speech is another and how it seems to be used to justify seemingly everything today. As I said, I remember an oppressive government and this, yet, isn't it. Try North Korea, for one.
Shyster wrote:And do I assume that everyone who is in favor of increased gun control is out to ban guns? No, I don’t. Gun violence is a problem, and people are looking for solutions. But it is the case that there are people who absolutely do not believe in private gun ownership, and some of those people are working for the organizations that promote more gun control. Thus, I view efforts for increased gun control with a great deal of skepticism.
You can view them with skepticism and I can understand that, but if guns aren't being banned across the rest of the world and there is virtually no talk of that as far as I know, there is zero chance they're going to be banned here. Maybe in 50 years when we are moving to a different kind of society, one world government mixed with wealthy corporations, like in a sci-fi movie.
And Shyster, you know I respect you, but you also know there are many dumb people in the South, so let's leave it as that. Problem I have is people buying guns off the grid so no one knows who has them or how many and then we all wonder how a tragedy happened.
I still have not heard one single solution from your side that makes any sense in combating the problem. Arming the entire society, as the NRA would like, isn't it. As least with some level of increased control over this stuff, it can get better, although, as I said before, with so many guns around, it may take years to make an impact.
We can go back and forth like this forever and it's just not going to result in anything because we differ here. I am not trying to take your gun away. I'm trying to have owners register so if they sell it to some bastard, we know where he got it from and we can act accordingly. Maybe then the fear will be so high that it will lead to decreased illegal sales, if you get the punishment right.