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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby mikey287 on Thu May 02, 2013 10:36 am

Super close of course, but updated for May 1st. I'm selling rotten tomatoes...3 for $1.
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby canaan on Thu May 02, 2013 10:57 am

updating the original and spoilering the older ones is awesome.
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby ExPatriatePen on Thu May 02, 2013 12:43 pm

Mikey... I'm just curious what the thinking is in listing Letang (who had an outstanding showing for sure) over Duper? While listing both would obviously open the discussion to accusations of 'homerism', I personally would have probably put PD on the list in Letangs spot.

Thoughts?
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby mikey287 on Thu May 02, 2013 12:49 pm

It was really close. Dupuis is a good choice to be sure. I favored Letang because he helped to orchestrate a shutout in a playoff game, I really liked his transition game all night...he was really skating with the puck well I thought. He activated a lot and played a big part in the offense while being a big part of things defensively of course.

If it's ever close, I'll always pick a defenseman over a winger. So much more responsibility.

I did have him marked for a giveaway, but the NHL does not. I thought in the mid third he turned the puck over inside the center circle but the stat keepers apparently thought otherwise. I'll have to re-watch...
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby ExPatriatePen on Thu May 02, 2013 12:58 pm

mikey287 wrote:
If it's ever close, I'll always pick a defenseman over a winger. So much more responsibility.



Yeah, I figured that was your logic, and your absolutely right, a quality defenseman has a bigger impact even if you just consider the amount of time he's out there.
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby Kraftster on Thu May 02, 2013 1:10 pm

mikey287 wrote:It was really close. Dupuis is a good choice to be sure. I favored Letang because he helped to orchestrate a shutout in a playoff game, I really liked his transition game all night...he was really skating with the puck well I thought. He activated a lot and played a big part in the offense while being a big part of things defensively of course.

If it's ever close, I'll always pick a defenseman over a winger. So much more responsibility.

I did have him marked for a giveaway, but the NHL does not. I thought in the mid third he turned the puck over inside the center circle but the stat keepers apparently thought otherwise. I'll have to re-watch...


I can't believe that wasn't counted as a giveaway. It definitely was one, in a dangerous area no less.
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby mikey287 on Thu May 02, 2013 1:14 pm

Glad I'm not only the one that remembers that...on the road, that's definitely a giveaway I bet...though, I'm sure Brooks Orpik was given 3 hits in that game as well...
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby pcm on Thu May 02, 2013 2:22 pm

ExPatriatePen wrote:
mikey287 wrote:
If it's ever close, I'll always pick a defenseman over a winger. So much more responsibility.



Yeah, I figured that was your logic, and your absolutely right, a quality defenseman has a bigger impact even if you just consider the amount of time he's out there.


And I'll [almost] always pick a goalie who earns a shutout over either.
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby Gaucho on Thu May 02, 2013 9:33 pm

AO has it all but wrapped up.
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby mikey287 on Fri May 03, 2013 10:25 am

Updated. Don't even bother looking at this point...too close to call. There's another 10 names that could easily be on that list. Erik Karlsson, Dustin Brown, Braden Holtby, Marc-Andre Fleury, Kristopher Letang, Logan Couture, etc., etc.
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby Gaucho on Fri May 03, 2013 10:39 am

Craig Anderson
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby ExPatriatePen on Fri May 03, 2013 10:41 am

Gaucho wrote:Craig Anderson


Ummm... who's #1 on Mikey's list?

Wait.. I thought this was the Jeopardy thread.
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby Gaucho on Fri May 03, 2013 10:44 am

Craig Anderson.

Simply updating the 1st post, huh? Sneaky, mike.
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby JoseCuervo on Fri May 03, 2013 3:04 pm

I agree that Doughty has played well but Conn Smythe worthy? I don't think you can really justify including a player on a team that's lost 2 of 2.
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby mikey287 on Fri May 03, 2013 3:22 pm

If he loses two more, we won't have to worry much about it, right?

Like I've said, you can put another name there and be just as right, ya know? It really is an exercise in futility to do it this early before some of the oil can separate from the water...but whatever...I've noticed Doughty in a positive manner quite a bit so far, so I put him on the list...will he be on it after tonight? I guess we'll see...
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby relantel on Fri May 03, 2013 3:25 pm

this almost has the feel of preseason polls. Kind of premature. Fun to talk about, perhaps, but premature nonetheless.

Has it ever gone to a player who did not make the SCF?
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby mikey287 on Fri May 03, 2013 3:26 pm

relantel wrote:this almost has the feel of preseason polls. Kind of premature. Fun to talk about, perhaps, but premature nonetheless.

Has it ever gone to a player who did not make the SCF?


Yup to the first line (as per the OP). Nope to the second line. It rarely goes to a loser in the Finals, much less someone that doesn't make the Finals.
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby relantel on Fri May 03, 2013 3:47 pm

mikey287 wrote:
relantel wrote:this almost has the feel of preseason polls. Kind of premature. Fun to talk about, perhaps, but premature nonetheless.

Has it ever gone to a player who did not make the SCF?


Yup to the first line (as per the OP). Nope to the second line. It rarely goes to a loser in the Finals, much less someone that doesn't make the Finals.


the only losers I recall in the last 30 years were two goaltenders, Giguere and Hextall. Looking it up, 5 won it on the losing team, 4 of which were goaltenders. Two of those were in the first four years of the trophy. Reggie Leach was only skater to do it in 1976. Suspect it would be very hard to have a losing skater win it this day and age. Would have to be miles ahead statistically of any winning player.

hockey reference has a decent chart of top 10 in playoff scoring: http://www.hockey-reference.com/leaders ... _10_p.html
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby mikey287 on Fri May 03, 2013 3:51 pm

Yeah, Leach got it because he broke the record for goals in a playoffs I think (19). Hall's and Giguere's were kind of a handout (Hall was swept in the Finals, as I recall but he was leading an expansion team into the jaws of doom). Hextall was very good for the Flyers in the '87 Finals, but I can't speak to most of the rest of that playoffs. Unfortunately, I never did learn very much in my travels about Crozier's win in 1966 or 1968 (I think?).
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby mikey287 on Sat May 04, 2013 10:40 am

I can't wait until this starts sorting itself out a little better...still just several hours into the playoffs, it's anyone's game of course...
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Mon May 06, 2013 4:42 pm

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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby MRandall25 on Mon May 06, 2013 4:43 pm

Sidney Crosby (no homer)
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby relantel on Mon May 06, 2013 5:03 pm

MRandall25 wrote:Sidney Crosby (no homer)

well... wasn't it 2010 where he had 14 in 5 games vs OTT then had 5 points in the final 7 games? A few games or a series does not an MVP make...
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby pcm on Mon May 06, 2013 5:43 pm

Here's a rotten tomato: Kyle Okposo
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Re: Live Conn Smythe Trophy Tracker

Postby MRandall25 on Mon May 06, 2013 5:50 pm

relantel wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:Sidney Crosby (no homer)

well... wasn't it 2010 where he had 14 in 5 games vs OTT then had 5 points in the final 7 games? A few games or a series does not an MVP make...


Couldn't you say that for the entire thread? :pop: :slug:
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