Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby canaan on Fri May 10, 2013 3:54 pm

i was talking about the first 1. it was just okay for me.
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby tifosi77 on Fri May 10, 2013 4:11 pm

DocEmrick wrote:Terminator 2 was a cash-in cheesy action flick with horrible lines like "Let me try mine," and the others. Furlong's acting is horrendous. Terminator ends perfectly, with the viewer to draw their own conclusions about judgement day, etc.

That being said, I still enjoy all of the films (yes even 3), I just think Terminator would have worked fine as a stand-alone movie.

That's not the point of a sequel tho..... by definition any story should work as a standalone movie, or it shouldn't be made into a movie in the first place.

There was a desire to make a sequel from the earliest days of the original film's release, but various legal, financial and technical issues kept inhibiting development efforts. When the original film was released it wasn't exactly a juggernaut at the box office; according to BoxOfficeMojo.com, it's total worldwide take was only $38 million, good for only 21st of all the films released in 1984. (Top dog that year was Beverly Hills Cop which raked in $234 million.) Granted, it only cost $6 million to make, so the return was fantastic. But it cost the producers nearly that much just to secure the IP rights to even make the sequel, so even if you ignore inflation you're still starting in a $5 million hole at the outset on a sequel.... and sequels, historically, aren't as successful as the original film.

So I don't think that T2 was a cash-and-grab.

T2 and T:Salvation? Different story.

Also, I don't really see any qualitative difference between "Let me try mine" and "Hasta la vista, baby" and whatnot and lines from the first movie like "I'll be back" and the exchange with the gun store owner.
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby pens9192 on Fri May 10, 2013 4:18 pm

I've always preferred Terminator 2 and Ghostbusters 2 over their originals. I don't know, I felt that way as a kid and I still feel the same now. I guess like T2 and GB2 better as a kid and it stuck with me.

Awful sequels:

- Matrix 2 & 3
- Major League 2 & 3
- Home Alone 3
- Bad News Bears
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby redwill on Fri May 10, 2013 4:23 pm

I loved Terminator and did not like Terminator 2 at all. People will disagree on almost anything, though. That's cool.

In terms of GREAT movie sequels: Wrath of Khan.
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby Froggy on Fri May 10, 2013 5:14 pm

Cracked.com had a video a couple months ago pointing out why T2 was a great movie, but a terrible sequel because it broke the rules established by the first movie. pretty interesting observation.
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby tifosi77 on Fri May 10, 2013 6:13 pm

Froggy wrote:Cracked.com had a video a couple months ago pointing out why T2 was a great movie, but a terrible sequel because it broke the rules established by the first movie. pretty interesting observation.

That cracked.com video Froggy was talking about

"Knife hands...." :lol:
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby Froggy on Fri May 10, 2013 6:15 pm

thank you. i'm mobile posting.
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby Shyster on Fri May 10, 2013 7:14 pm

eddysnake wrote:
tifosi77 wrote:
Shyster wrote:Highlander 2.

I'd say all three film sequels were crap, but the TV series was actually pretty cool.
When I saw the 4th film in theaters, the female lead was in the crowd with a bunch of her girlfriends. Every time she was on screen they'd cheer. It was cute the first time, and maybe the second time. By the 45 minute mark of the film, it was a bit of a different story.

tv show was pretty cool. first highlander is one of my favorites, the Kurgan is such an awesome bad guy (clancy brown is so cool, him and Brian Thompson (slasher in Cobra) always terrified me). The sequels were terrible (although I did like Endgame somewhat). I've always thought the concept could create a lot of great stories, but here we are.

I’d actually forgotten there were more sequels. There shouldn’t have been any. The whole plot of Highlander is that you have these guys who are somehow 99% immortal and all of them are engaged in the world’s most serious single-elimination tournament to get to the point where only one winner is left alive, at which point that winner will receive some sort of amazing supernatural prize. At the end, we have a winner, and he gets the prize. How could you have something after that (especially anything featuring planet Zeist :face: )?
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby canaan on Fri May 10, 2013 8:03 pm

The tv series was pretty underrated. Duncan was a beast.
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby columbia on Fri May 10, 2013 9:15 pm

I'm really glad that there was never a sequel to Office Space.
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby MRandall25 on Fri May 10, 2013 9:17 pm

They're making a sequel to 21 Jump Street.

I'm assuming that will fall on this list.
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby bhaw on Fri May 10, 2013 11:21 pm

The Marine 2 because The Marine 1 should never have been made or released for human eyes to see to begin with.
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby Rylan on Fri May 10, 2013 11:21 pm

bhaw wrote:The Marine 2 because The Marine 1 should never have been made or released for human eyes to see to begin with.


Dude you know you loved those movies.
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby bhaw on Fri May 10, 2013 11:22 pm

Do you have a Bat Phone that rings every time I mention The Marine on LGP? That was epic response time.
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby Rylan on Fri May 10, 2013 11:23 pm

lol just happened to be checking LGP during commercial.
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby bhaw on Fri May 10, 2013 11:27 pm

So, yes?
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby Rylan on Fri May 10, 2013 11:30 pm

You say it like its a bad thing. You defame that movie.
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby Rylan on Fri May 10, 2013 11:37 pm

Mighty Ducks 3 shouldn't have been made.
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby ulf on Sat May 11, 2013 12:18 am

Rylan wrote:Mighty Ducks 3 shouldn't have been made.

If they made 9 more I'd still watch them all.
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby Rylan on Sat May 11, 2013 12:21 am

That is very true.
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby MRandall25 on Sat May 11, 2013 12:46 am

D3 was awful. Such a let down after D2's awesomeness.
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby Pucks_and_Pols on Sat May 11, 2013 1:11 am

return to planet of the apes, beneath the planet of the apes, et al.
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby ulf on Sat May 11, 2013 10:37 am

Hangover 3 will be on this shortly.
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby Eismann on Sat May 11, 2013 1:06 pm

Cube 3

Caddyshack 2

Major League 3

Jaws 2
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Re: Sequels That Should Have Never Existed

Postby tifosi77 on Sat May 11, 2013 1:15 pm

I honestly don't think Jaws 2 is as bad as it's reputation. It's a serviceable action film, neither good nor bad, that has a couple scenes that I think are actually pretty effective. (The opening, the water skier, the dive class, the first teenager that gets snuffed) It falls short because its predecessor was an all-time classic. Then again, perhaps that's why it should never have been made.

I will concede, however, that the entire premise - giant shark's giant mate terrorizes same beach town three years later - is a bit daft.
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