shmenguin wrote:RxBandit66 wrote:I'm not a fan of Adams either, but as long as the PK is putting up great numbers, Bylsma would be foolish to mess with it. Adams is the de facto captain of the PK unit, and he does block a lot of shots. On offense, he's a complete zero, but the Pens have plenty of firepower to make up for that. Having too many guys in the lineup like Adams, however, makes it difficult to come back from a deficit in games because the coach has to run his top 6 out there the entire time.
the pk against the islanders wasn't good - despite the 90% rate. you up the sample size and we would be back down below 80%. but it certainly looked good last night.
my issue with the unit is closing speed. adams is slow. sutter is beyond slow. cooke isn't much of a burner. and then there's murray. guys are getting all day to make decisions because we can't pressure anyone. we aren't lacking in grit, but we're light on raw talent. hopefully the former is enough to balance the latter.
MarioLives wrote:Not sure why all the hate on Adams. He plays solid defense, kills penalties, and works hard. The Pens have enough skill and playmakers. Adams provides this team a stable defensive forward.
shmenguin wrote:i don't find adams to be hard-working on any note-worthy level. it's on the "big deal, you want a cookie?" level. his defensive effectiveness at even strength is also pretty rotten.
historically, he's been a phenomenal penalty killer, but ever since the philly collapse, there's not much evidence that it's still the case.
DelPen wrote:I wouldn't say the lone Sens goal was a softy by Vokoun. He didn't have it covered but he had no help to keep the Sens away from the net after. If either Engellend or Murray does their job then that goal never happens.
Penspal wrote:- Iggy just keeps racking up points on the PPlay. Is he now the Pens Play specialist? Better be, cause his even strength is sort of
pcm wrote:Blackhole Sutter on the other hand looks like Craig Adams without the passion.
Nizzy wrote:Its time to sit Morrow & Adams and play Jokinen & Bennett. Can you image how much more dangerous this team would be with adding the OFFENSIVE SKILLS to the bottom 6 by replacing these 2? No just offensive skills but SPEED as well.
Morrow, 7 games, 0 goals, 2 assists, -3 rating, 4 total shots.
I thought this guy was a great fit for the squad when we got him. He was great in the regular season for the Penguins but its clear he doesn't have much left. I'm kind of happy that he is playing this way because it's an obvious no resign to be. This means Iginla will probably be easier to keep, plus no way Morrow can make it 82 games. Just a complete lack of speed right now. I don't think he fits with the "system". I would sit him until we need him. His legs could use the rest.
Adams, Didn't even look at his stats. He doesn't make mistakes but he also doesn't do anything else out there. He can PK... so can Vitale, Dupuis, Cooke, Jokinen. We will be fine if Adams sits. There's enough veterans on the team now.
Add Jokinen and Bennett to the bottom 6.
I want to see Jokinen for Adams first actually.
MRandall25 wrote:DelPen wrote:I wouldn't say the lone Sens goal was a softy by Vokoun. He didn't have it covered but he had no help to keep the Sens away from the net after. If either Engellend or Murray does their job then that goal never happens.
But, at the same token, people would be crucifying Fleury for it and calling it a terrible goal. Regardless of who was on the ice.
It was a pretty soft goal that was preventable by Vokoun. Gotta hug the post better.
GSdrums87 wrote:Faceoffs were pretty bad for them last night. I know he had the best % but I'd so much rather see Jokinen for the 3rd line over Sutter. Dude just doesn't have much giddy-up right now. Also, with this slower Sens team, maybe Eaton finds his way back into the lineup?