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Re: Torres suspended until next round

Postby ExPatriatePen on Fri May 17, 2013 4:45 pm

JoseCuervo wrote:If conacher launches himself at someone's head and hits their chest, should he be suspended?


"I wasn't aiming at their head, honest...<snicker snicker>" :pop:
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Re: Torres suspended until next round

Postby Rylan on Sat May 18, 2013 6:06 pm

Doug Wilson fined for comments about the NHL's suspension of Torres.

https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/sta ... 5033791488

Pierre Lebrun wrote:NHL fines Sharks $100,000 for Doug Wilson's statement from yesterday


and Doug Wilson's comments

Doug Wilson wrote:Comparing the facts of this incident against the actual wording of Rule 48.1, it appears that the NHL has not only made an inappropriate application of this rule but is trying to make an example out of a player who is being judged on past events, one who has changed his game dramatically this season and taken only six minor penalties in 39 games.
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Re: Torres suspended until next round

Postby ExPatriatePen on Sat May 18, 2013 6:14 pm

Rylan wrote:Doug Wilson fined for comments about the NHL's suspension of Torres.

https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/sta ... 5033791488

Pierre Lebrun wrote:NHL fines Sharks $100,000 for Doug Wilson's statement from yesterday


and Doug Wilson's comments

Doug Wilson wrote:Comparing the facts of this incident against the actual wording of Rule 48.1, it appears that the NHL has not only made an inappropriate application of this rule but is trying to make an example out of a player who is being judged on past events, one who has changed his game dramatically this season and taken only six minor penalties in 39 games.


He may have gotten away without being fines except the part I bolded and colored.
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Re: Torres suspended until next round

Postby Rylan on Sat May 18, 2013 6:20 pm

Probably. But I agree with what Doug Wilson said.
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Re: Torres suspended until next round

Postby bhaw on Sat May 18, 2013 7:10 pm

Torres hasn't changed his game to stop targeting opponents' heads. Say he's reformed all you want, he is still trying to injure players in one of the most dangerous ways possible. A reformed player wouldn't be going after someone's head by trying to use a technicality by grazing a guy's shoulder first. He wanted to hit Stoll in the head and succeeded. Sounds like a really classy player who has made every attempt to change his game. :roll:
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Re: Torres suspended until next round

Postby bhaw on Sat May 18, 2013 7:12 pm

Wilson can be mad all he wants, the Sharks traded for a case of dynamite and are mad it blew up when they lit the fuse.
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Re: Torres suspended until next round

Postby shmenguin on Sat May 18, 2013 8:34 pm

Be good for 39 games and you are officially cured of being a dangerous player. Good to know.
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Re: Torres suspended until next round

Postby tjand72 on Sun May 19, 2013 3:15 am

Cooke needs to be the poster-child for rehabilitation. Despite Torres' reduction in penalties this year, he's obviously learned nothing. I don't despise headshots quite as much as other people, but rules are rules and he's done nothing to change his game. Well deserved.
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Re: Torres suspended until next round

Postby Fire0nice228 on Sun May 19, 2013 7:04 am

I think thats a hit that would definitely be looked at no matter who made that play. And I think its suspension worthy, but under the new CBA, if a first time offender was simply fined 10,000.00 and put on the black list for that hit I'd be okay with it I think. Being that its Torres, however, suspension definitely. The hitter has alot to do with it. His hit on Hossa last year was pretty damn egregious and will take a long time to "go away" in hockey circles.

The variable games thing (to the end of the round, or end of Conf Finals etc.) I got no problem with in the playoffs in general. Torres suspended till the end of the round.. I don't think theres a problem there. Its a punishment that fits the crime/player in this instance.
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Re: Torres suspended until next round

Postby Pavel Bure on Sun May 19, 2013 12:03 pm

How he didn't get a Cooke level suspension for this is beyond me.
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Re: Torres suspended until next round

Postby Pitt87 on Tue May 21, 2013 9:56 am

Rylan wrote:Probably. But I agree with what Doug Wilson said.


What he said was plain stupid. Torres can't stop himself from hitting guys high, and his career should be in a constant state of jeopardy until he proves that he can stop it. Hard to argue that he could have made this hit cleanly and chose to go for the big hit. That is not an arbitrary application of the rule.
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Re: Torres suspended until next round

Postby Froggy on Tue May 21, 2013 6:45 pm

my feeling is that it was a garbage suspension on cooke a couple years ago, but it makes me feel better now that at least they are treating all these major multiple offenders the same.
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Re: Torres suspended until next round

Postby Great58 on Tue May 21, 2013 7:43 pm

Froggy wrote:my feeling is that it was a garbage suspension on cooke a couple years ago, but it makes me feel better now that at least they are treating all these major multiple offenders the same.

Cooke's elbow wasn't even worth discussing as a borderline dirty hit or glancing blow or even a hockey play.... So I don't understand the comparison, other than some feel both suspensions were too long.
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Re: Torres suspended until next round

Postby Froggy on Tue May 21, 2013 8:18 pm

Great58 wrote:
Froggy wrote:my feeling is that it was a garbage suspension on cooke a couple years ago, but it makes me feel better now that at least they are treating all these major multiple offenders the same.

Cooke's elbow wasn't even worth discussing as a borderline dirty hit or glancing blow or even a hockey play.... So I don't understand the comparison, other than some feel both suspensions were too long.


in the sense that cooke got what amounted to 14 games for almost the exact same play that another player got suspended 2 games. The punishment wasn't over the play, it was the player. And it set a precedent that i was positive they wouldn't adhere to. I am happy to be proven wrong
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Re: Torres suspended until next round

Postby Great58 on Tue May 21, 2013 8:32 pm

Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. Now if they'd be consistent in identifying offeneders so they can be reoffenders when they offend again. Otherwise it's just Matt and Raffi being the examples for the entire league.
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Re: Torres suspended until next round

Postby penscup on Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:44 pm

Whoa just heard Stoll suffered a seizure.
Not good for his future in the league but at least he's okay for now.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/story/?id=4 ... =nhl-kings
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