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Sarcastic wrote:I'm with Boogeyman. Completely disrespectful to Vokoun. Bylsma's brain must be all scrambled by the embarrassing loss and he is so going crazy inside his mind, he doesn't understand the impact of what he's saying. This has nothing to do with loser Fleury. This is about showing some consideration to the team's playoff MVP this season.
MRandall25 wrote:I don't really see how what Bylsma said about Fleury is "throwing Vokoun under the bus".
MRandall25 wrote:I don't really see how what Bylsma said about Fleury is "throwing Vokoun under the bus".
farnham16 wrote:MRandall25 wrote:I don't really see how what Bylsma said about Fleury is "throwing Vokoun under the bus".
Saying Vokoun isn't going to get that chance again next year because Fleury is going to be our guy isn't disrespectful at all? After Vokoun saved the Pens against the Islanders and was the only Penguin to do his job against Boson Bylsma should have been praising Vokoun until he was blue in the face.
And saying MAF is the number one guy is just a flat out lie. Bylsma certainly doesn't trust him at all. Just BS from him today.
columbia wrote:re: trying to split the defense
Malkin spent most of the season trying to do that (and to little effect).
MRandall25 wrote:farnham16 wrote:MRandall25 wrote:I don't really see how what Bylsma said about Fleury is "throwing Vokoun under the bus".
Saying Vokoun isn't going to get that chance again next year because Fleury is going to be our guy isn't disrespectful at all? After Vokoun saved the Pens against the Islanders and was the only Penguin to do his job against Boson Bylsma should have been praising Vokoun until he was blue in the face.
And saying MAF is the number one guy is just a flat out lie. Bylsma certainly doesn't trust him at all. Just BS from him today.
You act like Vokoun would care. By all accounts, Vokoun is a team first guy.
Aren't you someone who thinks we could find a trading partner for Fleury? How would it help Fleury's value if Bylsma comes out and says "Man, that Fleury really sucks. I can't believe we're paying him"?
I guess only people with an axe to grind for Bylsma see it that way. Would you have the same reaction if Ray Shero had said it?
I see it as:
1. Making Fleury look good to prospective buyers (again, saying he sucked wouldn't really accomplish much)
2. In the chance that Fleury does play here next year, it's a shot of confidence for a goalie who needs it.
Why would Bylsma do it, though?
3. We have literally 0 other options besides Vokoun who can immediately step into an NHL goaltender position
4. There's no guarantee that Vokoun doesn't suddenly hurt himself and become Brent Johnson next year. There's also no chance Vokoun can still play a 60 game season at his age without the wheels falling off. Are you really prepared for that to happen?
Sorry, but if you expected him to say Fleury sucked, well I guess that's your fault.
MRandall25 wrote:In the end, if he's getting fired, why do you care what he thinks about the goalie situation?
Getting To My Game wrote:Stevo wrote:My only edukational achievement being a high school diploma
You don't say?
ExPatriatePen wrote:Getting To My Game wrote:Stevo wrote:My only edukational achievement being a high school diploma
You don't say?
I assuming that was done on purpose.
But carpentry by "Trial and Error"? Would you mind telling me the buildings you erected the first few years of your apprenticeship? I'd like to avoid them.
penmyst wrote:1. What's wrong with anger?
There SHOULD be anger when a person doesn't perform to their abilities. Do you get angry with your dumb-as-a-rock child when he pulls a "C" average in school? No. Do you get angry with your intelligent child when he pulls the same "C" average, and you know he can do much much better? Hell yes.
We call this "righteous anger", and it has a place in the world.
This Pens team was supposed to be a Cup contender, and they get sweeped out meekly by a team that is nowhere near better than them, and only arguably close to as good as them. And they lose FOUR in a row? While mustering all of TWO goals???
If you aren't angry at these Penguins, from the players on up through the management, then you either aren't a Pens fan or aren't worth the gunpowder to blow your ass up.
Guinness wrote:penmyst wrote:1. What's wrong with anger?
There SHOULD be anger when a person doesn't perform to their abilities. Do you get angry with your dumb-as-a-rock child when he pulls a "C" average in school? No. Do you get angry with your intelligent child when he pulls the same "C" average, and you know he can do much much better? Hell yes.
We call this "righteous anger", and it has a place in the world.
This Pens team was supposed to be a Cup contender, and they get sweeped out meekly by a team that is nowhere near better than them, and only arguably close to as good as them. And they lose FOUR in a row? While mustering all of TWO goals???
If you aren't angry at these Penguins, from the players on up through the management, then you either aren't a Pens fan or aren't worth the gunpowder to blow your ass up.
The people who should be angry are people who work for the Penguins organization.
I was disappointed. I was even angry after the game, and for a while the next morning. Then, I looked around at all the stuff I have going on in my life and moved on. "Righteous anger"? Over a hockey game? Are you freaking serious?
"Perspective". Try it sometime.
ETA: And spare me the speech about how I'm not a real fan.
Boogeyman wrote:
Get over yourself.
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