In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

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Which was the best transaction?

Staal Trade
14
25%
Vokoun Trade
36
65%
Michalek Trade
0
No votes
Tangradi Trade
2
4%
Iginla Trade
0
No votes
Morrow Trade
0
No votes
Murray Trade
0
No votes
Jokinen Trade
2
4%
Lovejoy Trade
0
No votes
Eaton Waivers
1
2%
Boychuk on waiivers
0
No votes
Boychuk placed on waivers
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 55

In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby IanMoran on Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:19 pm

Attempted to list every single acquisition / departure of guys that actually played a game..

What do you think was the best / worst move?

How would you rate his season overall?
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby Dickie Dunn on Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:24 pm

Vokoun trade. Pens don't get out of the first round without him.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby no name on Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:30 pm

Staal trade overall. Cap relief and inserted a player into the lineup who was able to tqke his spot. A blue chip prospect in Domoulin who at some time should see NHL time and a 8th overall pick who the book is still out on.

All that combined is a great overall value.

Eaton was also runner up move. WHen you give up nothing and get a guy you plugged into the lineup and win 12 in a row?? Again not based on anything but value we got our money out of that deal. To bad his game went south in the playoffs.

When i look at the other moves, most were designed to get us the cup, we fell 8 wins short.... so i don't see the value in thoes.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby Tyler Durden on Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:37 pm

I voted for the Vokoun trade. Although, I will say that it is a catch-22 because if Bylsma survives to remain as HC, he can thank Vokoun. Had the Pens gotten boat raced by the Isles, Bylsma almost certainly would be minced meat. So, if you're of the opinion that you want Bylsma gone, the Vokoun acquisition might not be as good as you think at first glance.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby CERV96 on Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:38 pm

TV trade
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby Sarcastic on Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:39 pm

I'll pick Vokoun here because what happened is that he was brought in for one thing only, which was to provide quality depth in case Fleury started doing his crazy thing again. And guess what happened. Exactly what Shero had in mind. Vokoun took over and provided us with the kind of goaltending we expected in the playoffs. So job well done, Ray. On a sidenote, it's pretty sad we need to pay for an expensive 'backup goalie' because we just don't trust Fleury. Hmm.

I think jury is still out on Sutter.

Hard to judge the playoff trades for the 4 guys, considering what happened.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby Rylan on Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:44 pm

Sutter is a fantastic piece for the Penguins. He is a solid 3rd line center that fills the role of being a defensively minded forward capable of playing solid defense and being extremely effective on the PK. He has done everything he has been asked to do and has done extremely well. There is nothing anyone can truly complain about aside from goal scoring. Which is an insanely stupid complaint to have about a 3rd line center whose skill set is to stop goals first.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby no name on Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:49 pm

CERV96 wrote:TV trade



Thoes who are not familiar with the TV trade here is a little history. Well when Ray traded his 60 inch plasma and got a Dan Bylsmas 55 inch LED TV inreturn, in hindsight after the plasma wore out a few days later, sure this TV trade wasd a good one. Ray convinced Dan that a guy with the last name Bylsma should to have a Plasma TV. You can see them both on judge judy over the summer to see if Ray was aware the TV was on its last leg.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby Pavement on Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:53 pm

I've gone for Vokoun, thought he was really good. Seems to be a good guy aswell.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby RisslingsMissingTeeth on Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:57 pm

I went for Staal only because I think that move took a lot of guts and considering Staal turned our offer down, the fact that Ray still could secure what he did was GM genius. In other words, the Staal trade took mad skillz.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby cheesesteakwithegg on Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:11 pm

Gotta go with the Staal trade. The entire NHL knew he wasn't re-signing here, so Shero had little leverage. What he got in return was amazing, considering the circumstances.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby penny lane on Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:13 pm

from a year ago, Paul Martin, enemy #1. Best trade; asking Martin about staying / going in Pittsburgh.
And following Martin's request. He didn't act like "fans" after the flyers series.
Shows to go ya, people and situations change. ;)
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby Desiato on Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:15 pm

Long term, it was undoubtedly the Staal trade as all other moves have only short-term benefits.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby shmenguin on Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:35 pm

if he didn't trade staal, i think we most likely win the boston series. he leaves next year, of course, but we'd still be playing hockey right now.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby skullman80 on Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:40 pm

I don't think Staal makes that much of a difference as far as the Boston series goes. Maybe we win a game and score 4 goals instead of 2, but yeah.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby shmenguin on Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:51 pm

skullman80 wrote:I don't think Staal makes that much of a difference as far as the Boston series goes. Maybe we win a game and score 4 goals instead of 2, but yeah.


hmmm...don't know about that.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby skullman80 on Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:53 pm

I mean I don't think he takes us from no wins to 4 wins. I just don't see it.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby RisslingsMissingTeeth on Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:57 pm

Considering the nothingness that Staal did for the Hurricanes, I don't think he would've changed anything here.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby Dr Rosenrosen on Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:01 pm

shmenguin wrote:if he didn't trade staal, i think we most likely win the boston series. he leaves next year, of course, but we'd still be playing hockey right now.

I tend to agree with this. Great and necessary deal for the long-term, but I can't even count how many times this season I thought about how much better HCDB's system worked with Staal leading that third line cycle.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby Gaucho on Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:21 pm

Short term Vokoun, long term Sutter. Although placing Boychuk on waivers was fun, too.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby pcm on Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:31 pm

Best move: Staal trade.

Worst move: Not firing DB.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby shmenguin on Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:23 pm

RisslingsMissingTeeth wrote:Considering the nothingness that Staal did for the Hurricanes, I don't think he would've changed anything here.


Well there was that one time where Sid was neutered, and Staal's line was a significant factor in us winning the series. Another way to say that is we don't win the cup in 09 if you swap staal for Sutter.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby columbia on Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:25 pm

Sure.

But you're seriously drinking the kool-aid (both pro-Staal and anti-Sutter), if you think that Staal's presence would have turned getting swept into beating Boston.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby shmenguin on Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:27 pm

columbia wrote:Sure.

But you're seriously drinking the kool-aid (both pro-Staal and anti-Sutter), if you think that Staal's presence would have turned getting swept into beating Boston.


Eh, maybe. I guess I'm in the "it was an epic failure" crowd, so one guy may not have mattered. Though if one is in the "it was just bad luck/the series was really close" crowd, I think they should absolutely believe that staal would have turned the series.
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Re: In hindsight best Shero move of 2012-13 Season?

Postby ville5 on Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:02 am

Not trading PMart.
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