George R.R. Martin

[Idoit40fans]

that whole scene was ruined for me because of happy gilmore. they just kept chanting "meesta, meesta"

Hahaha I was thinking the same thing. And now she is the "meesta, meesta" lady to me.

[Spangler]

that whole scene was ruined for me because of happy gilmore. they just kept chanting "meesta, meesta"

Hahaha I was thinking the same thing. And now she is the "meesta, meesta" lady to me.

Aw damn, you ruined it for me too.

[Idoit40fans]

Hopefully she dies the same way.

[Spangler]

"You know that meesta, meesta lady? I think I just -ugh killed her."

[Willie Kool]

that whole scene was ruined for me because of happy gilmore. they just kept chanting "meesta, meesta"

And IMO the last Theon scene was ruined by the cheesy Roots rip-off.

[Spangler]

that whole scene was ruined for me because of happy gilmore. they just kept chanting "meesta, meesta"

And IMO the last Theon scene was ruined by the cheesy Roots rip-off.

I was looking at it from a book standpoint. In the book, Theon is so scared to death to address himself by his real name that he forgets it all together.

On the show, that was a scene to begin to show how Theon loses his identity.

[the wicked child]

[Admin]

Red Wedding should have been the finale. After that, the real finale was boring.

[the wicked child]

Red Wedding should have been the finale. After that, the real finale was boring.

From a pure TV standpoint, I would agree... it would be the perfect HOLY **** ending to a season.

However, this is not a typical show and there are many more story lines that needed to be advanced prior to next season. I think it greatly suffered from not having a natural ending more than anything... so they did the best they could with the remaining story lines. I maintain that the ending would have worked better if they included the taking of the city in the same episode.

There is a LOT of **** left to go down in the remainder of the Book 3 material, so setting up all of the other characters going forward was required, I think. If they weren't limited to ten 50-57 minute episodes per season, perhaps they could get away with stopping at the RW.

Plus, they probably figured that the episode following the RW was likely to disappoint no matter what so they figured they would get the immediate fallout out of the way now and then hit the ground running for S4.

[Kraftster]

I agree with that. I think it was a fine ending to the season. Although no huge cliffhangers, there are some interesting story lines and some nice teases.

Spoiler:

Arya referencing H'ghar (character I love) in the RW episode and then again featuring in the finale.

Revisited Theon and shed some light on that or the first time in several weeks (it feels like anyway).

Bran's story really getting pumped up/word being spread of the WW heading south.

[DelPen]

Last season battle of black water could have been the finale but we had a wrap up and set up for next season instead. No different this season. Definitely sets up Next season well.

[DontToewsMeBro]

Along with Ned Stark in the next to last episode, you kind of have to resolve some things to set up the next season. I can't wait for season 4, I think it should probably be the best one at least in terms of action, pacing, and overall character development.

The first few hundred pages or so of ASoS is pretty slow in general, they left off right when it starts to get really good.

[Shyster]

A minor point that I think is too basic to be a spoiler: In the books, the secret gate in the Wall at the Nightfort is guarded by a magical, talking gate that will only open for a brother of the Night’s Watch who recites the oath in front of it. I assume HBO didn’t want to spend the money on special effects for something so minor to the story. Still, watching the show people might wonder why the wildlings went to so much trouble to climb the wall when they just could have traipsed through that big freakin’ tunnel that leads to an abandoned and unguarded fort on the other side of the Wall.

[the wicked child]

Ah yeah. I didn't really think about it much during the episode, but that is a bit of a plot hole. I mean it's supposed to be secret and all, but still you'd think the Wildlings would have explored the length of the wall before trying to climb the GD thing. Guess you're not supposed to think about it much.

[columbia]

I'd have thought that they would just go around it.

[DelPen]

I'd have thought that they would just go around it.

Well that's what Osha did

[Pucks_and_Pols]

The wall wasn't built to stop wildlings, who after all are just men.

The wall was built to stop something much more sinister and keep it away from the realms of men.

[DontToewsMeBro]

I think it's interesting how they're trying to humanize the Hound in the TV show...

Spoiler:

...so they can make a big deal about it when Arya leaves him to 'die' next season.

[Spangler]

I'd have thought that they would just go around it.

Well that's what Osha did

I think they have a castle near there, so i t would be more heavily guarded than most of the Wall.

[Gaucho]

I for one am glad they spared me the magical, talking gate.

[columbia]

I for one am glad they spared me the magical, talking gate.

You're not a fan of Bylsmagic?

[Gaucho]

I for one am glad they spared me the magical, talking gate.

You're not a fan of Bylsmagic?

I can take only so much BS.

[Letang Is The Truth]

i quite liked the ending sans the daenerys scene. please tell me that jaqen h'ghar is back based on arya and the coin?

[eddysnake]

I don't remember the magic gate in the books?

I really liked the casting of the Hound, he is probably my favorite character, wish there was more of him

[Kaizer]

I don't remember the magic gate in the books?

I really liked the casting of the Hound, he is probably my favorite character, wish there was more of him

yeah. they already skipped too much of him.