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The new Malkin contract.

Postby no name on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:08 pm

If you look at Sids deal, he is guarenteed 86.4 in the first 8 years of his 12 year deal. Would this be the starting point for Geno. 10.8 for 8 years = 86.4. That is alot of beans.
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby Crankshaft on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:11 pm

I think he gets an 8 year deal worth $71 million which gives him a cap value of $8.875.
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby GeoTank on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:12 pm

I honestly think he will just say " Sid gets 8.7 per...... sounds good to me, where do i sign?"

He doesn't seem to care.
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby the riddler on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:16 pm

I see him making 10 annually, 8 years - $80 million. Also, Crosby's cap hit is 8.7. He is making an average of 10.6 million over the next 8 seasons. Look for something slightly lower for Malkin. If he made 8.7 a season, it would be a major discount.
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby Beveridge on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:18 pm

8 years 76 million is my guess.

He would get 70 at 7 easy on open market so I could see compromise being a 9.5 hit cap for that 8th year.

I hope it's less but Malkin doesn't owe the Pens any discount.
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby lemieuxReturns on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:19 pm

8 years 100 million
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby Idoit40fans on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:22 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if he took 8.7 a year for 8 years, its not a discount. At the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if he went for 8 years 80 million.
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby meow on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:22 pm

Eleventy billion dollars
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby Beveridge on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:25 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if he took 8.7 a year for 8 years, its not a discount. At the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if he went for 8 years 80 million.



This is why I really think it lands somewhere in the middle. I think 8.7 is the floor and 10 is the ceiling in these negotiations.
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby the riddler on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:26 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if he took 8.7 a year for 8 years, its not a discount. At the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if he went for 8 years 80 million.


For what he could demand on the open market, an 8.7 cap hit is a discount.
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby Rylan on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:26 pm

Wasn't there an article in one of these threads that showed Malkin was willing to take less money in order to keep the team together? I think he will have a cap hit around 9 to be honest.
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby Idoit40fans on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:27 pm

I am getting annoyed with people acting like Malkin is giving a discount by taking 8.7 a year. Say he's taking an unnecessary risk if you want to, but don't call it a discount compared to what Crosby is taking. Its not. If he's healthy after the contract, he has an opportunity to sign again, with a higher cap, at the same or higher cap hit. and make the same(or more) than Crosby over the life of Crosby's contract. His career isn't over after 8 years...maybe. :pop:
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby knives of ice on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:31 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:I am getting annoyed with people acting like Malkin is giving a discount by taking 8.7 a year. Say he's taking an unnecessary risk if you want to, but don't call it a discount compared to what Crosby is taking. Its not. If he's healthy after the contract, he has an opportunity to sign again, with a higher cap, at the same or higher cap hit. and make the same(or more) than Crosby over the life of Crosby's contract. His career isn't over after 8 years...maybe. :pop:



both sid and geno are giving huge discounts at the price.

both would get max salaries on the open market around 13 million per year for 7 years easily.
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby Stick_licker on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:32 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:I am getting annoyed with people acting like Malkin is giving a discount by taking 8.7 a year. Say he's taking an unnecessary risk if you want to, but don't call it a discount compared to what Crosby is taking. Its not. If he's healthy after the contract, he has an opportunity to sign again, with a higher cap, at the same or higher cap hit. and make the same(or more) than Crosby over the life of Crosby's contract. His career isn't over after 8 years...maybe. :pop:


Sid is getting paid 10.6 M per year for the next 8 years. If Malkin takes 8.7M per year for 8 years then it is exactly a discount if you believe Malkin is of the same level as Crosby. Even if you think Crosby > Malkin, I doubt you think he's 20% greater which what 10.6 / 8.7 implies. It IS a discount.
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby tfrizz on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:33 pm

lemieuxReturns wrote:8 years 100 million


So... max?
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby Crankshaft on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:36 pm

Stick_licker wrote:
Idoit40fans wrote:I am getting annoyed with people acting like Malkin is giving a discount by taking 8.7 a year. Say he's taking an unnecessary risk if you want to, but don't call it a discount compared to what Crosby is taking. Its not. If he's healthy after the contract, he has an opportunity to sign again, with a higher cap, at the same or higher cap hit. and make the same(or more) than Crosby over the life of Crosby's contract. His career isn't over after 8 years...maybe. :pop:


Sid is getting paid 10.6 M per year for the next 8 years. If Malkin takes 8.7M per year for 8 years then it is exactly a discount if you believe Malkin is of the same level as Crosby. Even if you think Crosby > Malkin, I doubt you think he's 20% greater which what 10.6 / 8.7 implies. It IS a discount.


I don't think you are understanding what Idoit40fans is saying. Crosby is making more up front money in 8 years, but he's locked beyond that and will more than likely be making much less money than Malkin after his 8 year contract because he'll be able to renegotiate a more lucrative contract.
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby Rylan on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:37 pm

That was how I interpreted what Idoit was saying.
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby sil on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:37 pm

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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby lemieuxReturns on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:38 pm

tfrizz wrote:
lemieuxReturns wrote:8 years 100 million


So... max?

yea. listen, this has nothing to do with discounts. The owners wanted term limits on contracts... and they got it. Players have to get the max they can while they can. Geno deserves to be paid like top 3 in the league. He should be allowed to make 100+ million and this is the way he can. If it screws with Shero's cap that sucks, but it should not be geno's problem.
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby no name on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:38 pm

meow wrote:Eleventy billion dollars



That works out to what Eleventeen per-season?
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby no name on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:47 pm

lemieuxReturns wrote:
tfrizz wrote:
lemieuxReturns wrote:8 years 100 million


So... max?

yea. listen, this has nothing to do with discounts. The owners wanted term limits on contracts... and they got it. Players have to get the max they can while they can. Geno deserves to be paid like top 3 in the league. He should be allowed to make 100+ million and this is the way he can. If it screws with Shero's cap that sucks, but it should not be geno's problem.


Thats like a 12.5 cap hit, we can't afford anymore talent with 2 players taking up to 20.2 of cap space. I hope Geno doesn't want that. That kinda cheats Sid, he makes 102.4 over 12 years Geno would make almost the same as Sid in 4 fewer years.
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby Steve Dave on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:50 pm

no name wrote:If you look at Sids deal, he is guarenteed 86.4 in the first 8 years of his 12 year deal. Would this be the starting point for Geno. 10.8 for 8 years = 86.4. That is alot of beans.


As long as Malkin agrees to sign a 4yr/$18mil contract at the end of that contract for a cap hit of $4.5mil per yr.
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby no name on Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:59 pm

I am beginning to think is will be a simple 8 year, 76 million deal (9.5 cap hit) Using SId contract as a basis but you have to use it under the new CBA in only 8 years.

Max i would spend is 10.5 on Geno and i would concider 9 a season a great discount. It will land some where in between.
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby DesertPenguin on Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:10 pm

This is the worst year for Malkin and Letang to be up for contracts. You shouldn't compare old contracts to new because the CBA changed and the cap dropped almost 10%. Agents and players won't see it that way, and will want to compare new deals to previous ones.

I'm hoping he takes less than 10.8 with the assumption that he'll be able to make more on the 4 years following it than sid will. I'm hopeful for 9.5 million. That ammount would not hamstring the rest of the team.
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Re: The new Malkin contract.

Postby pens2005 on Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:16 pm

DesertPenguin wrote:This is the worst year for Malkin and Letang to be up for contracts. You shouldn't compare old contracts to new because the CBA changed and the cap dropped almost 10%. Agents and players won't see it that way, and will want to compare new deals to previous ones.

I'm hoping he takes less than 10.8 with the assumption that he'll be able to make more on the 4 years following it than sid will. I'm hopeful for 9.5 million. That ammount would not hamstring the rest of the team.


He shouldn't make a penny more than 8.7 per year.

Anything more is a joke.
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