Predict the Compliance Buyouts

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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby offsides on Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:40 pm

Beveridge wrote:
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Beveridge wrote:Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 3h
Ray Emery will have options. Among them, the Philadelphia Flyers. Nabokov will likely be of some interest to the Flyers as well.


Not going to lie. I'm more excited to see what Flyers do for the goalie than I am on what Pens do with Letang, Dupuis, etc.


I can truly say that I don't give a flying #$%^ what the Flyers do for a goalie or anything else.



I mean it from a pure humor standpoint. They keep digging themselves deeper and deeper with their handling of goalies. They one up themselves every year.


Yeah, humor and the Flyers is good, but I'm not sure if they can out do what they already did. Very hard to get worse than the Bryzgalov fiasco.
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby columbia on Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:40 pm

Sure they can. Bryz was the least of their on ice problems.
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby Beveridge on Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:06 am

They already got Steve Mason.

They out did the Bryz fiasco before they even got rid of Bryz.
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby Factorial on Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:00 am

The NHL on Monday moved to close a loophole left in the allegedly airtight collective bargaining agreement by notifying general managers the league would deem re-signing a player following a trade and a subsequent amnesty buyout as circumvention, and thus would not register the contract, The Post has learned.


http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_spo ... 1GtnCDS8ZO
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby Idoit40fans on Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:17 pm

Hahaha, I was wondering about that option.
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby Gaucho on Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:41 pm

I hear Vinny is a candidate. I didn't believe it until I found out he has 7 years let on his contract.
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby brwi on Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:45 pm

Gaucho wrote:I hear Vinny is a candidate. I didn't believe it until I found out he has 7 years let on his contract.


He has to be #1 candidate for a buy-out at this point. His production vs. his contract is very lopsided and isn't going to improve. I don't see any reason for TB to not use an amnesty buy-out on him.
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby columbia on Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:46 pm

And perhaps another reason that TB could be a good trading partner for the Pens.
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby largegarlic on Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:48 pm

Tampa has several pretty bad contracts. I just don't know if their ownership would want to spend money paying people to go away. Based on Capgeek's calculator, buying out Lecavalier would mean that Tampa has to pay him ~$2.1 million/year through 2027 ( :shock: ). I was thinking they could probably get the same production by signing, say, Ribeiro for $5 million/year, which gives them an extra ~$2.7 million in cap space.

Is it worth it to pay $2.1 million to get $2.7 million in cap space? Teams like the Flyers and the Rangers have no problem lighting money on fire, but I have no idea if Tampa's ownership would go for this. It leads me to think that it makes more sense for the less wealthy franchises to only buy out those players who really aren't producing much at all as opposed to players like Lecavalier, who are still producing, but not in a way that is commensurate with their salary.
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby mikey287 on Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:50 pm

I'd be a tiny bit surprised if they bought out VL4 to be honest. He's a big community guy...I know he hasn't produced to the level expected with his contract, but I think they're more likely to buy out Bugsy than VL4, in my opinion...
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby penny lane on Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:52 pm

http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-philade ... ive-system
Speaking on 630 CHED, Winter said the Flyers' defensive system made it impossible for a goalie to see the puck.
“It’s terrible in Philadelphia for a goaltender,” Winter said. “They block shots. They don’t open up lanes. Goaltenders can’t see the puck. The goalie coach [Jeff Reese] has no authority. The head coach [Peter Laviolette] doesn’t listen to him. It’s an issue and it’s made it a challenge.”
Winter said Bryzgalov told him “many times,” he had problems with the Flyers’ style of defensive play.
He said Bryz told him, “‘They pay you $51 million dollars because they seem to think I was good at stopping the puck and then they never let you see it.’


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NHL on TSN ‏@NHLonTSN 2m According to @RenLavoieRDS the Lightning will buy out Vincent Lecavalier's contract. #TSN #NHL


I don't what he has left, but perhaps with Coach Therrien in Montreal ?
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby canaan on Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:08 am

official: Lacavalier to be bought-out

http://lightning.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=675430
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby largegarlic on Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:35 am

Well, that shows what I know...
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby brwi on Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:43 am

Bye-bye Vinnie in TB. A good but no longer(if he ever was) great player with a horrid contract.
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby mikey287 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:43 am

largegarlic wrote:Well, that shows what I know...


Same with me. I wouldn't be shocked if he ends up back in Tampa Bay in 2015 either. One of my first "favorite prospects" never got to the level of one of my "favorite historical figures", Jean Beliveau. Except in the movies...

Will VL4 finally come home to Montreal?
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby Gaucho on Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:50 am

The Rags will probably buy out Richards and sign Vinny.
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby MRandall25 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:00 am

Gaucho wrote:The Rags will probably buy out Richards and sign Vinny.


For $6 mil a year
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby Gaucho on Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:11 am

MRandall25 wrote:
Gaucho wrote:The Rags will probably buy out Richards and sign Vinny.


For $6 mil a year


I was thinking $7.5.
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby MRandall25 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:17 am

Gaucho wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:
Gaucho wrote:The Rags will probably buy out Richards and sign Vinny.


For $6 mil a year


I was thinking $7.5.


I was being generous towards Sather. That's probably more in the ballpark.
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby Sam's Drunk Dog on Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:27 pm

MRandall25 wrote:
Gaucho wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:
Gaucho wrote:The Rags will probably buy out Richards and sign Vinny.


For $6 mil a year


I was thinking $7.5.


I was being generous towards Sather. That's probably more in the ballpark.


With the next highest offer being $5 mil a year.
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby Beveridge on Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:46 pm

Saw Danny Heatley can't be bought out.

Why? NMC?
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby mikey287 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:47 pm

Injured.
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby Beveridge on Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:16 pm

Ah.

Knew injured players couldn't be bought out, but didn't realize he was hurt.

Thanks
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby lemieuxReturns on Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:10 pm

Question: if the wild want to buyout heatley but he is hurt, can they buy him out once he is healthy if it's mid season?

question: if they have to wait until the offseason to buy him out, can they sit him out on purpose in order to ensure his health for buyout the following season?
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Re: Predict the Compliance Buyouts

Postby mikey287 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:14 pm

Q1: No. They can use their second compliance buyout next season though, if he's healthy and they don't use both this offseason. This doesn't apply to Heatley specifically, as he's a UFA after this season.
Q2: No. That would bring on a grievance from the Union I suspect.

Answer: Just buyout Tom Gilbert for cap relief.
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