shafnutz05 wrote: Factorial wrote:
Gaucho wrote:Although I'm not sure I'd call the culprits peace loving freedom fighters.
I think Shaf is the only referring to them as that.
Since the start of the Egyptian Revolution in 2011, the protesters have been misrepresented as such. It is difficult for me to celebrate the end of any dictator's regime over there, because it will only be replaced by a violent, conservative theocracy.
I think you're half way there. I agree 100% that the protesters have been misrepresented, but I would argue that the protests stem largely from an anti-american sentiment as we backed Mubarak right up until his reign became untenable. Then we claimed credit for helping the revolution. Morsi helped deliver peace between Hamas and Israel, and when he then claimed near-dictatorial power shortly thereafter, and Washington was silent. It looked to be an obvious quid pro quo, and I imagine it was obvious to the Egyptian people as well.
But would you even give a moment's consideration to the possibility that maybe, just maybe, people want to feel like their government should answer to their own people, and not Washington DC? And can you imagine if the issue of american influence gained traction in Egyptian national politics what kind of voices would ring loudest in the ears of the people? It would be people who would appear incorruptible, devoutly religious, and strong - as opposed to the greedy and slick politicians who wheel and deal with DC rather than focusing on the people. It should be noted too that while Mubarak's regime was close with Washington, he was no reformer.
If you can entertain that possibility, even as an intellectual exercise, what possible good then (from a natsec point of view) can come from further interference? Won't further interference just strengthen the ideology of those we consider to be our enemies? If we went hands-off for a decade or two, won't anti-americn ideologies dry up? How would they get funding if they can't demonstrate a credible cause? How would they recruit? How would they win political office?
Imagine how upset people get over the influence of lobbyists, especially foreign lobbyists, within our government. Multiply that by 1000.