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Better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all.
mikey287 wrote:Eh, the deals still made sense at the time. Murray was a touch of an overpayment, but the entire board would have traded TK and a 2nd for [anything] so what did we really lose there...Iginla was a steal, Jokinen was actual theft, and we paid a pretty price for Morrow, but he was the best acquisition we made in terms of performance vs. expectation.
Like the Hossa deal five years ago, I'd do it again in a heartbeat. You can criticize every deal in hindsight, but these were the right moves at the time. The window was wide-open, we had the cap space, we had the assets, we had a chance to win the Stanley Cup and we took that chance. It didn't work, but I'd rather try with this incredible roster we have than sit on our hands and hope Tanner Glass and Deryk Engelland are ready for the bright lights of the playoffs...
Not to mention, the organization felt it was deal with bonus bucks from the Staal trade. Staal was going to leave, but on the way out he left us with a third line center, a potential #4 d-man and a top-10 draft pick. That's total bonus round. Dumoulin is a "2nd round pick" quality d-man, so you exchanged that for Murray. Pouliot is a bonus future PMD, so you moved Morrow. Iginla and Jokinen, again, were just stolen from their respective clubs...
I think Shero has done a bang-up job as GM to date.
Gaucho wrote:Hindsight is irrelevant.
pfim wrote:Gaucho wrote:Hindsight is irrelevant.
Perhaps, but there wasn't joyous agreement when at least 3 of those deals happened.
headh wrote:Why is the mindset in hockey that a team needs to make a trade in order to be perceived as trying or being bold? What about the idea of dancing with the players who brought you? The Penguin Team was pretty darn good before adding in new players.
columbia wrote:They went all in and that was fine, but Shero can't do that too often.
At a certain point, "we'll fix it at the deadline" is going to really hamper the development of any younger talent coming through the system (if you keep trading away high picks and prospects).
mikey287 wrote:columbia wrote:They went all in and that was fine, but Shero can't do that too often.
At a certain point, "we'll fix it at the deadline" is going to really hamper the development of any younger talent coming through the system (if you keep trading away high picks and prospects).
Very much so. Must pick our spots. Realize the inventory of our farm system. Trades like that at the deadline are an organizational decision. Consult with amateur scouts for progress reports on what the draft picks are doing and how they are progressing, etc. This was a perfect time with cap space and my "bonus bucks" theory. Next year is a different ballgame, of course.
mikey287 wrote:columbia wrote:They went all in and that was fine, but Shero can't do that too often.
At a certain point, "we'll fix it at the deadline" is going to really hamper the development of any younger talent coming through the system (if you keep trading away high picks and prospects).
Very much so. Must pick our spots. Realize the inventory of our farm system. Trades like that at the deadline are an organizational decision. Consult with amateur scouts for progress reports on what the draft picks are doing and how they are progressing, etc. This was a perfect time with cap space and my "bonus bucks" theory. Next year is a different ballgame, of course.
joker10277 wrote:I have no problem with the trades. I do have a problem with the drafting and developement of any player that is not a dman, farm system is really bad on the forward side, really bad!
SolidSnake wrote:This upcoming disaster of a season will tell a lot
IanMoran wrote:joker10277 wrote:I have no problem with the trades. I do have a problem with the drafting and developement of any player that is not a dman, farm system is really bad on the forward side, really bad!
Kunitz / Neal prove that we should always go best available
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