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CFA Re-signed

Postby Willie Kool on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:17 pm

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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby columbia on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:20 pm

Adams can help you win a series and you're not going to lose one because he's out there. I'm not sure that people should expect more for 700K.
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby Pens4Life on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:21 pm

2 years again.. isnt he 46 years old already :D okey,one roster spot to solve and we are done!
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby Willie Kool on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:28 pm

Adams finished the year with three goals and six assists for nine points, while ranking third on the squad with 107 hits and second among Penguins forwards with 37 blocked shots.

While being 18th on the team in average time on ice - 18th.

CFA brings something that the other forwards need a lot more of.
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby slappybrown on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:31 pm

Willie Kool wrote:
Adams finished the year with three goals and six assists for nine points, while ranking third on the squad with 107 hits and second among Penguins forwards with 37 blocked shots.

While being 18th on the team in average time on ice - 18th.

CFA brings something that the other forwards need a lot more of.

Those numbers are a product of two things: (1) he plays a lot of PK and (2) his line never has the puck at 5 on 5. The former is easily replaceable and the latter is not good.
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby Beveridge on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:33 pm

Adams will sacrifice his body, team leader, never gets hurt. You could do a whole lot worse for 700k and not too much better at that price.
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby meow on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:34 pm

Good signing. 150K over league min is great value here.
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby JS© on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:39 pm

Beveridge wrote:Adams will sacrifice his body, team leader, never gets hurt. You could do a whole lot worse for 700k and not too much better at that price.


True.

Was hoping we'd go in a different direction with somebody a little quicker, but for what he brings I shouldn't complain much.
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby Scott on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:41 pm

Win by the Pens here. Adams is certainly worth 700k per season even at 53 years old
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby Willie Kool on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:42 pm

slappybrown wrote:
Willie Kool wrote:
Adams finished the year with three goals and six assists for nine points, while ranking third on the squad with 107 hits and second among Penguins forwards with 37 blocked shots.

While being 18th on the team in average time on ice - 18th.

CFA brings something that the other forwards need a lot more of.

Those numbers are a product of two things: (1) he plays a lot of PK and (2) his line never has the puck at 5 on 5. The former is easily replaceable and the latter is not good.


I don't know how 'easily replaceable' he is at 700K, with what he provides on the PK.
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby KG on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:42 pm

Fine with bringing him back. He played every regular season and playoff game this past year.

He shouldn't be counted on to play every day again this year.
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby Eismann on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:48 pm

Awesome!

Best,

Several years ago, before he stopped being any good.
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby Gaucho on Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:52 pm

Good.
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby shmenguin on Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:04 pm

Willie Kool wrote:
slappybrown wrote:
Willie Kool wrote:
Adams finished the year with three goals and six assists for nine points, while ranking third on the squad with 107 hits and second among Penguins forwards with 37 blocked shots.

While being 18th on the team in average time on ice - 18th.

CFA brings something that the other forwards need a lot more of.

Those numbers are a product of two things: (1) he plays a lot of PK and (2) his line never has the puck at 5 on 5. The former is easily replaceable and the latter is not good.


I don't know how 'easily replaceable' he is at 700K, with what he provides on the PK.


There's no solid evidence that our PK is any good, aside from shutting down a putrid Boston power play. the immediate drop off in PK % once staal and michalek left isn't the best endorsement for Adams. He's lousy 5v5, and is ok on the PK. And I'm done with the leadership shtick. Lets see some evidence of anyone on this team being a leader.

But he's cheap as dirt and he limps into a ton of hits. So here's to 2 more years of a butt 4th line.
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby slappybrown on Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:05 pm

Willie Kool wrote:
slappybrown wrote:
Willie Kool wrote:
Adams finished the year with three goals and six assists for nine points, while ranking third on the squad with 107 hits and second among Penguins forwards with 37 blocked shots.

While being 18th on the team in average time on ice - 18th.

CFA brings something that the other forwards need a lot more of.

Those numbers are a product of two things: (1) he plays a lot of PK and (2) his line never has the puck at 5 on 5. The former is easily replaceable and the latter is not good.


I don't know how 'easily replaceable' he is at 700K, with what he provides on the PK.

He was one of the primary pieces on a below average PK. Not sure you can describe him as anything more than decent on the PK at this point and now he's a year older. Would rather some youth there, but whatever not the end of the world.
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby taz71 on Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:11 pm

our PK was good against NYI and OTT one of our main penalty killers is leaving via FA to the Wild so yeah this was necessary to ease in the youth movement.
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby Crankshaft on Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:11 pm

Weren't the Pens one of the top teams on PK this year?
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby offsides on Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:13 pm

taz71 wrote:our PK was good against NYI and OTT one of our main penalty killers is leaving via FA to the Wild so yeah this was necessary to ease in the youth movement.


What youth movement are you talking about? I don't see one.
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby pcm on Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:16 pm

taz71 wrote:our PK was good against NYI and OTT one of our main penalty killers is leaving via FA to the Wild so yeah this was necessary to ease in the youth movement.


Youth movement? Do you think Blysma is going to sit Glass or Adams to ease in guys like Sill and Uher? Are Jeffrey and Vitale going to be get time as PK'ers, which they excelled at in WBS?
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby offsides on Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:16 pm

Crankshaft wrote:Weren't the Pens one of the top teams on PK this year?


We ended up 25th with a 79.6%

http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm?fe ... me=summary
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby columbia on Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:18 pm

This year was going to be rough because of the declining cap, but Shero seems intent on having a crappy bottom six for years to come (through his relative allotment of cap spending).
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby shmenguin on Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:23 pm

taz71 wrote:our PK was good against NYI and OTT one of our main penalty killers is leaving via FA to the Wild so yeah this was necessary to ease in the youth movement.


Wasn't good against NYI. They had unlimited chances that they blew. Ottawa had a terrible power play, any way you slice it.
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby Pitt87 on Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:08 pm

slappybrown wrote:
Willie Kool wrote:
Adams finished the year with three goals and six assists for nine points, while ranking third on the squad with 107 hits and second among Penguins forwards with 37 blocked shots.

While being 18th on the team in average time on ice - 18th.

CFA brings something that the other forwards need a lot more of.

Those numbers are a product of two things: (1) he plays a lot of PK and (2) his line never has the puck at 5 on 5. The former is easily replaceable and the latter is not good.


This. Also indicates he plays the puck with his body, not his stick, which hockey players need to be be able to do, IMHO.... :slug:
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby Pitt87 on Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:10 pm

offsides wrote:
Crankshaft wrote:Weren't the Pens one of the top teams on PK this year?


We ended up 25th with a 79.6%

http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm?fe ... me=summary


Were much better in years past. Good reason for that, and he's the second guy on this list:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?fetchKey=20122PITFAFALL&sort=avgShortHandedTOIPerGame&viewName=timeOnIce
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Re: CFA Re-signed

Postby Gaucho on Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:18 pm

bicker bicker bicker
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