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canaan wrote:I don't understand the circumvention remarks...isnt his cap hit 6mil no matter what?
Teams can exceed the cap by up to 7.5% due to Performance bonuses in contracts. The only players that are eligible to have Performance bonuses are:
1) Rookie players on their ELC
2) Age 35+ players who sign a one year contract
3) Vet players (400+ games) who spent at least 100 days on IR during their most recent season. Also must sign a one year contract.
Iginla could receive performance bonuses under clause (2), but he would have to only do a one year deal. Also, those Performance Bonuses aren't a free lunch. If a team finishes the season over the cap due to performance bonuses then that overage amount is deducted from their cap the next season. So generally it's not in the best interest of the team to actually exceed the cap if they know the performance bonuses are likely to be achieved.
sniper wrote:Iginla sucks. Does nothing 5 on 5. Anything over $2M is over payment. He will kill whatever line he is on because he does absolutely nothing. He is slow and soft. Waste of money. Good luck with this anchor Boston.
PhantomJB93 wrote:ExPatriatePen wrote:Like having a crush on the cutest girl in school, realizing she wasn't all that great, and now seing her date some schmuck.
It took me until your post to realize this is EXACTLY how I feel over this whole thing.
I have the absolute worst feeling Boston will use him correctly, he'll put up 30+ goals again, and we'll look like complete fools. I hope I'm wrong.
pcm wrote:PhantomJB93 wrote:ExPatriatePen wrote:Like having a crush on the cutest girl in school, realizing she wasn't all that great, and now seing her date some schmuck.
It took me until your post to realize this is EXACTLY how I feel over this whole thing.
I have the absolute worst feeling Boston will use him correctly, he'll put up 30+ goals again, and we'll look like complete fools. I hope I'm wrong.
I always got the sense that Iginla's smiles were totally fake. Like he (the pretty girl) was out on a date with the rich guy in the fancy car, who turns out to be a total pansy.
I think he knew he made a mistake choosing Pittsburgh, didn't play well because he wasn't super motivated, and will tear it up in Boston where he fits in perfectly. I too hope I'm wrong.
Easton wrote:pcm wrote:PhantomJB93 wrote:ExPatriatePen wrote:Like having a crush on the cutest girl in school, realizing she wasn't all that great, and now seing her date some schmuck.
It took me until your post to realize this is EXACTLY how I feel over this whole thing.
I have the absolute worst feeling Boston will use him correctly, he'll put up 30+ goals again, and we'll look like complete fools. I hope I'm wrong.
I always got the sense that Iginla's smiles were totally fake. Like he (the pretty girl) was out on a date with the rich guy in the fancy car, who turns out to be a total pansy.
I think he knew he made a mistake choosing Pittsburgh, didn't play well because he wasn't super motivated, and will tear it up in Boston where he fits in perfectly. I too hope I'm wrong.
How are you not motivated in the playoffs? Even if you exclude the regular season, the Iginla I saw in the postseason was not someone who I want to pay $6 mil to. He looked slow, old and worn out. Not saying that can't be remedied with an off-season, but how much improvement are we really looking at here? He looked absolutely gassed out there.
Lesky wrote:Iginla is all about the $$$ Boston were the highest bidder. He's a mercenary. Nothing more/nothing less.
MarioLives wrote:This to me stings a little. Like he chose the Bruins just to let the Pens know he made a mistake..... I don't like it one bit
Kovy27 wrote:MarioLives wrote:This to me stings a little. Like he chose the Bruins just to let the Pens know he made a mistake..... I don't like it one bit
Ask Hossa how that turned out...
Lesky wrote:Iginla is all about the $$$ Boston were the highest bidder. He's a mercenary. Nothing more/nothing less. (SARCASM/JOKE for those who did not understand it)
BurghersAndDogsSports wrote:I'm not saying he is a good signing for Boston. Or he has much left in the tank but maybe it was simply a bad idea getting him.
ExPatriatePen wrote:I get the feeling that Iginla wasn't giving 100% in Calgary this past season. He kinda of let his conditioning go. When you're traded at the deadline, you can't suddenly go into the gym and get in shape, not at his age. He has an entire summer to work at it now. I don't expect the Iginla of 2001-5 but I think he'll be better than he was with the Pens.
I don't feel as used by him as I felt with Hossa, but I wish that trade had worked out better for us.
I'd love to hear Shero speaking frankly on any lessons he's learned now after the Hossa/Iginla trades.
Tico Rick wrote:ExPatriatePen wrote:I get the feeling that Iginla wasn't giving 100% in Calgary this past season. He kinda of let his conditioning go. When you're traded at the deadline, you can't suddenly go into the gym and get in shape, not at his age. He has an entire summer to work at it now. I don't expect the Iginla of 2001-5 but I think he'll be better than he was with the Pens.
I don't feel as used by him as I felt with Hossa, but I wish that trade had worked out better for us.
I'd love to hear Shero speaking frankly on any lessons he's learned now after the Hossa/Iginla trades.
This post along with your previous post (Iginla=ex-girlfriend) sums up the Iginla situation perfectly.
Lt. Dish wrote:BurghersAndDogsSports wrote:I'm not saying he is a good signing for Boston. Or he has much left in the tank but maybe it was simply a bad idea getting him.
BADS, I'm glad you said this. Hindsight is, of course 20/20; I was ecstatic to see him as a Pen, and I still am glad he was on our team even for 10 minutes. But, perhaps the whole thing was ill-conceived and/or hastily executed from the get go, especially if the Pens knew there was no room for him on the right side.
MarioLives wrote:Lt. Dish wrote:BurghersAndDogsSports wrote:I'm not saying he is a good signing for Boston. Or he has much left in the tank but maybe it was simply a bad idea getting him.
BADS, I'm glad you said this. Hindsight is, of course 20/20; I was ecstatic to see him as a Pen, and I still am glad he was on our team even for 10 minutes. But, perhaps the whole thing was ill-conceived and/or hastily executed from the get go, especially if the Pens knew there was no room for him on the right side.
Agree with you 100%. Who would of ever thought it would have ended so badly. I wonder if this
Will impact other high profile players from picking the pens though come trade deadline? Since Iggy was used so badly?
Kovy27 wrote:MarioLives wrote:This to me stings a little. Like he chose the Bruins just to let the Pens know he made a mistake..... I don't like it one bit
Ask Hossa how that turned out...
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