WAKE UP RS!

[Pens4Life]

We need some grit and size.. out current team is smaller and softer than it was.. We lost Iginla, Cooke , Morrow, Murray , Kennedy..
and added Scuderi so far.. common Shero!!!

[taz71]

you forgot how we are getting to old, don't develop youth, fire Bylsma and can't believe its not Fleury

[Pens4Life]

you forgot how we are getting to old, don't develop youth, fire Bylsma and can't believe its not Fleury

pretty much yeah

[scals37]

Kennedy and grit/size were used in the same sentence?

[Beveridge]

I'm not sure how serious this thread is. We aren't even 48 hours into free agency.

[Rugbymuffin]

We need some grit and size.. out current team is smaller and softer than it was.. We lost Iginla, Cooke , Morrow, Murray , Kennedy..
and added Scuderi so far.. common Shero!!!

So we lost Matt Cooke is what you are telling me ?

[Hawkeynut]

I dunno about you guys but the only guys that looked "old and slow" are on that list (ie: Iginla, Morrow and Murray). Kennedy was a bad cap hit this season. Only player that will remotely "hurt" will be the loss of Matt Cooke. That being said, the addition of Scuds more than makes up for Cookie's departure.

[Big Easy Pens Fan]

I dunno about you guys but the only guys that looked "old and slow" are on that list (ie: Iginla, Morrow and Murray). Kennedy was a bad cap hit this season. Only player that will remotely "hurt" will be the loss of Matt Cooke. That being said, the addition of Scuds more than makes up for Cookie's departure.

I'm with you Hawkeynut. The only complaint I have about the current team's makeup is that it may be, MAY BE, a bit soff. Doesn't seem to be a team that opponents hate to play against. Ah well, you can't have everything.

BEPF

[topshelf]

We need some grit and size.. out current team is smaller and softer than it was.. We lost Iginla, Cooke , Morrow, Murray , Kennedy..
and added Scuderi so far.. common Shero!!!

So we lost Matt Cooke is what you are telling me ?

That's exactly what I thought when I read the original post.

Last year Shero was able to go out and get the guys he did because teams could spend up to $70.2 mil. You've gotta let those guys walk.

[Steve]

This team is lacking a little sandpaper, and forward depth.

On July 7th.

[Puck Drama]

Shero has painted himself into a corner. The Pens won the Cup with a great 3rd line - now all those players are gone. Now Dupius will be a bad cap hit.
What is so laughable - all the defensive prospects the team is supposed to have. Why is Shero over spending on defensive free agents?

[offsides]

This team is lacking a little sandpaper, and forward depth.

On July 7th.

That is the scariest part to me, forward depth. We all know injuries will happen, and I just don't see any legitimate forwards in WBS.

[topshelf]

Shero has painted himself into a corner. The Pens won the Cup with a great 3rd line - now all those players are gone. Now Dupius will be a bad cap hit.
What is so laughable - all the defensive prospects the team is supposed to have. Why is Shero over spending on defensive free agents?

Here is a list of players that received a higher annual salary Dupuis, but produced less than him last year:

Jarome Iginla
Bryan Bickell
Nathan Horton
Daniel Alfredsson
Stephen Weiss
Daniel Briere
Ryan Clowe
Michael Ryder
Patrick Elias
Clarke MacArthur
Vincent Lecavalier
Valtteri Filppula
Tyler Bozak
Mike Ribero
David Clarkson

Can we put the "Dupuis' cap hit is bad" story to rest?

[Beveridge]

Shero has painted himself into a corner. The Pens won the Cup with a great 3rd line - now all those players are gone. Now Dupius will be a bad cap hit.
What is so laughable - all the defensive prospects the team is supposed to have. Why is Shero over spending on defensive free agents?

Here is a list of players that received a higher annual salary Dupuis, but produced less than him last year:

Jarome Iginla
Bryan Bickell
Nathan Horton
Daniel Alfredsson
Stephen Weiss
Daniel Briere
Ryan Clowe
Michael Ryder
Patrick Elias
Clarke MacArthur
Vincent Lecavalier
Valtteri Filppula
Tyler Bozak
Mike Ribero
David Clarkson

Can we put the "Dupuis' cap hit is bad" story to rest?

I'm actually excited to explore this contract and argument 4 years from now.

[Bioshock]

This topic is tremendous and if you take it even sort of seriously, then the jokes on you.

[topshelf]

This topic is tremendous and if you take it even sort of seriously, then the jokes on you.

[Puck Drama]

The question to ask - why Shero/Bylsma afraid of young players?
The impact of the stupid deadline trades, will further degrade an already barren prospect system.

[DayWalker]

Shero has painted himself into a corner. The Pens won the Cup with a great 3rd line - now all those players are gone. Now Dupius will be a bad cap hit.
What is so laughable - all the defensive prospects the team is supposed to have. Why is Shero over spending on defensive free agents?

Here is a list of players that received a higher annual salary Dupuis, but produced less than him last year:

Jarome Iginla
Bryan Bickell
Nathan Horton
Daniel Alfredsson
Stephen Weiss
Daniel Briere
Ryan Clowe
Michael Ryder
Patrick Elias
Clarke MacArthur
Vincent Lecavalier
Valtteri Filppula
Tyler Bozak
Mike Ribero
David Clarkson

Can we put the "Dupuis' cap hit is bad" story to rest?

Except those comparisons only make sense if those players had had a similar opportunity to play alongside Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin last season. That is not to suggest Dupuis' contract is necessarily a bad move by the Penguins (I happen to think it may be two years too long, but it is not a crippling move by any means), but those are apples-to-oranges comparisons.

[topshelf]

Except those comparisons only make sense if those players had had a similar opportunity to play alongside Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin last season. That is not to suggest Dupuis' contract is necessarily a bad move by the Penguins (I happen to think it may be two years too long, but it is not a crippling move by any means), but those are apples-to-oranges comparisons.

Right, there is no doubt that some of them may have scored more than Dupuis on Sid's line, but not at Dupuis' price.

[DayWalker]

Except those comparisons only make sense if those players had had a similar opportunity to play alongside Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin last season. That is not to suggest Dupuis' contract is necessarily a bad move by the Penguins (I happen to think it may be two years too long, but it is not a crippling move by any means), but those are apples-to-oranges comparisons.

Right, there is no doubt that some of them may have scored more than Dupuis on Sid's line, but not at Dupuis' price.

That is the benefit of having Dupuis on the roster so that he can take that hometown discount. My concern is the contract given to the disappearing act on Crosby's other wing.

[topshelf]

Except those comparisons only make sense if those players had had a similar opportunity to play alongside Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin last season. That is not to suggest Dupuis' contract is necessarily a bad move by the Penguins (I happen to think it may be two years too long, but it is not a crippling move by any means), but those are apples-to-oranges comparisons.

Right, there is no doubt that some of them may have scored more than Dupuis on Sid's line, but not at Dupuis' price.

That is the benefit of having Dupuis on the roster so that he can take that hometown discount. My concern is the contract given to the disappearing act on Crosby's other wing.

He had a better year than Dupuis last year, so the same rules apply. No one else can match that production for that price. Is the name of the game we'll play when we have top talent in Malkin and Sid.

[DayWalker]

Except those comparisons only make sense if those players had had a similar opportunity to play alongside Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin last season. That is not to suggest Dupuis' contract is necessarily a bad move by the Penguins (I happen to think it may be two years too long, but it is not a crippling move by any means), but those are apples-to-oranges comparisons.

Right, there is no doubt that some of them may have scored more than Dupuis on Sid's line, but not at Dupuis' price.

That is the benefit of having Dupuis on the roster so that he can take that hometown discount. My concern is the contract given to the disappearing act on Crosby's other wing.

He had a better year than Dupuis last year, so the same rules apply. No one else can match that production for that price. Is the name of the game we'll play when we have top talent in Malkin and Sid.

Production in the regular season.

[Jamie]

Shero has painted himself into a corner. The Pens won the Cup with a great 3rd line - now all those players are gone. Now Dupius will be a bad cap hit.
What is so laughable - all the defensive prospects the team is supposed to have. Why is Shero over spending on defensive free agents?

Here is a list of players that received a higher annual salary Dupuis, but produced less than him last year:

Jarome Iginla
Bryan Bickell
Nathan Horton
Daniel Alfredsson
Stephen Weiss
Daniel Briere
Ryan Clowe
Michael Ryder
Patrick Elias
Clarke MacArthur
Vincent Lecavalier
Valtteri Filppula
Tyler Bozak
Mike Ribero
David Clarkson

Can we put the "Dupuis' cap hit is bad" story to rest?

Except those comparisons only make sense if those players had had a similar opportunity to play alongside Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin last season. That is not to suggest Dupuis' contract is necessarily a bad move by the Penguins (I happen to think it may be two years too long, but it is not a crippling move by any means), but those are apples-to-oranges comparisons.

Dupuis still put up numbers when Malkin and Sid were hurt, and he was not playing along side of them. I think Dupuis is the type of guy that could play with anyone and still be productive.

[headh]

The question to ask - why Shero/Bylsma afraid of young players?
The impact of the stupid deadline trades, will further degrade an already barren prospect system.

MISTAKES....Guys like Letang make young player mistakes. We aren't losing because we are too soft. We are losing because we make too many boneheaded mistakes.

[no name]

The question to ask - why Shero/Bylsma afraid of young players?
The impact of the stupid deadline trades, will further degrade an already barren prospect system.

MISTAKES....Guys like Letang make young player mistakes. We aren't losing because we are too soft. We are losing because we make too many boneheaded mistakes.

Lets clarify, we are not losing in the regular season, we play great, its the playoffs where the bone head mistakes take place.