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taz71 wrote:you forgot how we are getting to old, don't develop youth, fire Bylsma and can't believe its not Fleury
Pens4Life wrote:We need some grit and size.. out current team is smaller and softer than it was.. We lost Iginla, Cooke , Morrow, Murray , Kennedy..
and added Scuderi so far.. common Shero!!!
Hawkeynut wrote:I dunno about you guys but the only guys that looked "old and slow" are on that list (ie: Iginla, Morrow and Murray). Kennedy was a bad cap hit this season. Only player that will remotely "hurt" will be the loss of Matt Cooke. That being said, the addition of Scuds more than makes up for Cookie's departure.
Rugbymuffin wrote:Pens4Life wrote:We need some grit and size.. out current team is smaller and softer than it was.. We lost Iginla, Cooke , Morrow, Murray , Kennedy..
and added Scuderi so far.. common Shero!!!
So we lost Matt Cooke is what you are telling me ?
Steve wrote:This team is lacking a little sandpaper, and forward depth.
On July 7th.
Puck Drama wrote:Shero has painted himself into a corner. The Pens won the Cup with a great 3rd line - now all those players are gone. Now Dupius will be a bad cap hit.
What is so laughable - all the defensive prospects the team is supposed to have. Why is Shero over spending on defensive free agents?
topshelf wrote:Puck Drama wrote:Shero has painted himself into a corner. The Pens won the Cup with a great 3rd line - now all those players are gone. Now Dupius will be a bad cap hit.
What is so laughable - all the defensive prospects the team is supposed to have. Why is Shero over spending on defensive free agents?
Here is a list of players that received a higher annual salary Dupuis, but produced less than him last year:
Jarome Iginla
Bryan Bickell
Nathan Horton
Daniel Alfredsson
Stephen Weiss
Daniel Briere
Ryan Clowe
Michael Ryder
Patrick Elias
Clarke MacArthur
Vincent Lecavalier
Valtteri Filppula
Tyler Bozak
Mike Ribero
David Clarkson
Can we put the "Dupuis' cap hit is bad" story to rest?
Bioshock wrote:This topic is tremendous and if you take it even sort of seriously, then the jokes on you.
topshelf wrote:Puck Drama wrote:Shero has painted himself into a corner. The Pens won the Cup with a great 3rd line - now all those players are gone. Now Dupius will be a bad cap hit.
What is so laughable - all the defensive prospects the team is supposed to have. Why is Shero over spending on defensive free agents?
Here is a list of players that received a higher annual salary Dupuis, but produced less than him last year:
Jarome Iginla
Bryan Bickell
Nathan Horton
Daniel Alfredsson
Stephen Weiss
Daniel Briere
Ryan Clowe
Michael Ryder
Patrick Elias
Clarke MacArthur
Vincent Lecavalier
Valtteri Filppula
Tyler Bozak
Mike Ribero
David Clarkson
Can we put the "Dupuis' cap hit is bad" story to rest?
DayWalker wrote:Except those comparisons only make sense if those players had had a similar opportunity to play alongside Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin last season. That is not to suggest Dupuis' contract is necessarily a bad move by the Penguins (I happen to think it may be two years too long, but it is not a crippling move by any means), but those are apples-to-oranges comparisons.
topshelf wrote:DayWalker wrote:Except those comparisons only make sense if those players had had a similar opportunity to play alongside Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin last season. That is not to suggest Dupuis' contract is necessarily a bad move by the Penguins (I happen to think it may be two years too long, but it is not a crippling move by any means), but those are apples-to-oranges comparisons.
Right, there is no doubt that some of them may have scored more than Dupuis on Sid's line, but not at Dupuis' price.
DayWalker wrote:topshelf wrote:DayWalker wrote:Except those comparisons only make sense if those players had had a similar opportunity to play alongside Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin last season. That is not to suggest Dupuis' contract is necessarily a bad move by the Penguins (I happen to think it may be two years too long, but it is not a crippling move by any means), but those are apples-to-oranges comparisons.
Right, there is no doubt that some of them may have scored more than Dupuis on Sid's line, but not at Dupuis' price.
That is the benefit of having Dupuis on the roster so that he can take that hometown discount. My concern is the contract given to the disappearing act on Crosby's other wing.
topshelf wrote:DayWalker wrote:topshelf wrote:DayWalker wrote:Except those comparisons only make sense if those players had had a similar opportunity to play alongside Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin last season. That is not to suggest Dupuis' contract is necessarily a bad move by the Penguins (I happen to think it may be two years too long, but it is not a crippling move by any means), but those are apples-to-oranges comparisons.
Right, there is no doubt that some of them may have scored more than Dupuis on Sid's line, but not at Dupuis' price.
That is the benefit of having Dupuis on the roster so that he can take that hometown discount. My concern is the contract given to the disappearing act on Crosby's other wing.
He had a better year than Dupuis last year, so the same rules apply. No one else can match that production for that price. Is the name of the game we'll play when we have top talent in Malkin and Sid.
DayWalker wrote:topshelf wrote:Puck Drama wrote:Shero has painted himself into a corner. The Pens won the Cup with a great 3rd line - now all those players are gone. Now Dupius will be a bad cap hit.
What is so laughable - all the defensive prospects the team is supposed to have. Why is Shero over spending on defensive free agents?
Here is a list of players that received a higher annual salary Dupuis, but produced less than him last year:
Jarome Iginla
Bryan Bickell
Nathan Horton
Daniel Alfredsson
Stephen Weiss
Daniel Briere
Ryan Clowe
Michael Ryder
Patrick Elias
Clarke MacArthur
Vincent Lecavalier
Valtteri Filppula
Tyler Bozak
Mike Ribero
David Clarkson
Can we put the "Dupuis' cap hit is bad" story to rest?
Except those comparisons only make sense if those players had had a similar opportunity to play alongside Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin last season. That is not to suggest Dupuis' contract is necessarily a bad move by the Penguins (I happen to think it may be two years too long, but it is not a crippling move by any means), but those are apples-to-oranges comparisons.
Puck Drama wrote:The question to ask - why Shero/Bylsma afraid of young players?
The impact of the stupid deadline trades, will further degrade an already barren prospect system.
headh wrote:Puck Drama wrote:The question to ask - why Shero/Bylsma afraid of young players?
The impact of the stupid deadline trades, will further degrade an already barren prospect system.
MISTAKES....Guys like Letang make young player mistakes. We aren't losing because we are too soft. We are losing because we make too many boneheaded mistakes.
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