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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby PensFanInDC on Wed May 29, 2013 12:33 pm

relantel wrote:An example is this 2-18-87


Why are we putting Nisky on the wing and Crosby on the other with Neal in the middle. HE'S A RW IN HIS NATURAL POSITION!!!
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby pressure=9Pa on Wed May 29, 2013 1:05 pm

PensFanInDC wrote:
relantel wrote:An example is this 2-18-87


Why are we putting Nisky on the wing and Crosby on the other with Neal in the middle. HE'S A RW IN HIS NATURAL POSITION!!!


That's the first thing I thought of on my initial scan as well.
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby JS© on Wed May 29, 2013 1:51 pm

relantel wrote:
bh wrote:What about those Fata's. Did Rico's younger brother ever get called up for a game?

Nope, don't think Drew ever came up from WBS.

Any chance they might have played together in a preseason game?

Konstantin Koltsov once scored a hat trick while playing on a line with Lemieux and Straka
http://old.post-gazette.com/penguins/20 ... 0927p2.asp
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby relantel on Wed May 29, 2013 5:11 pm

From October 12, 1967 edition of the Pittsburgh Press:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=d ... page&hl=en

Image #19 is the sports page (paginated page 37 in the paper)... "Penguins Look Good Despite Loss". Another article on same page about Jean Beliveau getting goal #400 in that game. The boxscore is on page #39, which includes full rosters (a rarity in the land of the Press). A photo is there on that page too, which shows the Habs in white and the Pens in blue, and highlights Captain Ab McDonald #20.
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby relantel on Wed May 29, 2013 5:13 pm

JS© wrote:
relantel wrote:
bh wrote:What about those Fata's. Did Rico's younger brother ever get called up for a game?

Nope, don't think Drew ever came up from WBS.

Any chance they might have played together in a preseason game?

Konstantin Koltsov once scored a hat trick while playing on a line with Lemieux and Straka
http://old.post-gazette.com/penguins/20 ... 0927p2.asp


One thing I've not done is track preseason games. Hatricks, Shutouts for, OT goals for, shootout goals/attempts/misses/etc. sure, but no preseason games.
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby relantel on Thu May 30, 2013 12:37 pm

not quite Penguin related... but boxscore from the first game of the Pittsburgh Pirates, a 2-1W over the Boston Bruins:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=sx ... %2C1691761

This appears to be before on the fly line changes came to be.

Oh, and Pitt beat Penn State 23-7 that day too.
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby relantel on Thu May 30, 2013 1:01 pm

And, in what may be the most detailed recap I've seen in long, long time, is this one from the Pirates first win against the Habs in Montreal - a 1-0 duel between Worters and Vezina (1st period, left due illness)/Lacroix (2nd-3rd) that took place on November 28, 1925.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=tR ... %2C2024418
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby sil on Thu May 30, 2013 2:40 pm

relantel wrote:not quite Penguin related... but boxscore from the first game of the Pittsburgh Pirates, a 2-1W over the Boston Bruins:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=sx ... %2C1691761

This appears to be before on the fly line changes came to be.

Oh, and Pitt beat Penn State 23-7 that day too.


$37.50 for a suit AND extra pants!!! I'm calling Harry Mason on my cradle handset Bell telephone right now!!!
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby Shyster on Thu May 30, 2013 7:30 pm

sil wrote:$37.50 for a suit AND extra pants!!! I'm calling Harry Mason on my cradle handset Bell telephone right now!!!

$498.28 in today's money. Still a really good deal for two pairs of pants.
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby FreeCandy44 on Thu May 30, 2013 9:47 pm

I was unaware that Kaufman was the worlds largest hat retailer.
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby DudeMan2766 on Thu May 30, 2013 10:58 pm

I'm Penguin fan. You no say Penguin is useless...

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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby NashvilleCat on Thu May 30, 2013 11:07 pm

relantel wrote:From October 12, 1967 edition of the Pittsburgh Press:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=d ... page&hl=en

Image #19 is the sports page (paginated page 37 in the paper)... "Penguins Look Good Despite Loss". Another article on same page about Jean Beliveau getting goal #400 in that game. The boxscore is on page #39, which includes full rosters (a rarity in the land of the Press). A photo is there on that page too, which shows the Habs in white and the Pens in blue, and highlights Captain Ab McDonald #20.

How about Connie Hawkins throwing in 31 for the Pittsburgh Pipers? A few years ago on EBay I bought a Pittsburgh Pipers t-shirt - great logo.
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby Kaizer on Thu May 30, 2013 11:22 pm

relantel wrote:
Azkar wrote:NPR, but who are the highest-scoring pair of NHL brothers?

Spoiler:
The Gretzkys. Wayne: 2,857 points; Brent: 4 points.

:thumb:

Turn it PR - who are the highest scoring Brothers on the Penguins all-time list?
Spoiler:
(trick question)


i'm ashamed that my first thought was Laraque.
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby Bathgate on Fri May 31, 2013 10:32 am

relantel wrote:And, in what may be the most detailed recap I've seen in long, long time, is this one from the Pirates first win against the Habs in Montreal - a 1-0 duel between Worters and Vezina (1st period, left due illness)/Lacroix (2nd-3rd) that took place on November 28, 1925.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=tR ... %2C2024418


For those of you who don't know the story, Georges Vezina was taken out of this game because he was dying, though they did not know it just then. He was coughing up blood during the game and after he was removed, he never played again. Several months later, he was dead of tuberculosis.

Another interesting factoid about this game is that it was played at the Mount Royal Arena, which did not have artificial ice, and was dependent on freezing weather to stage games. If you think it is cold inside the CEC, imagine how cold it must have been to be a spectator in that arena.
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby relantel on Fri May 31, 2013 1:18 pm

10/25/67 - PG recap mistakenly refers to the Penguins as the Hornets when talking about Ab McDonald's 2 goals (2nd bolded paragraph below the boxscore), despite using Penguins multiple times in the same article. Hard habit to kick, I suppose, given the long history of the Hornets.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=kb ... %2C4199591
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby penny lane on Fri May 31, 2013 2:54 pm

fun joe starkey article about all of the Boston connections! :P

*I did not know this fact!
Banners in the rafters show the Penguins with 14 Art Ross Trophy winners, Ross being the Bruins' first-ever coach and GM


Read more: http://triblive.com/sports/joestarkey/4 ... z2UtjOYP3s
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby Eismann on Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:18 pm

Whom did Dennis Bonvie fight (and destroy) in his first game with the big club?

Hint: he later played for the Pens (briefly).
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby relantel on Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:05 am

Today's useless stat: complete list of Game-Tying goals (last goal scored in a tie game - i.e. Pens were behind when each of these goals were scored. Ties where the Pens surrendered the lead gave the other team the GTG).

This one was compiled manually - not a stat I recall seeing in any of the Pens media guides I had, and NHL.com list is incomplete as it stops somewhere around 87-88. The GTG stat itself appears to no longer be credited in the shootout era, which makes sense to a degree since the Game-Deciding goal stat came to be.

Spoiler:
Code: Select all
GTG   Last Name   First Name
10   Jagr   Jaromir
9   Lemieux   Mario
9   Pronovost   Jean
8   Kehoe   Rick
5   Apps   Syl
4   Boyer   Wally
4   Ferguson   George
4   Francis   Ron
4   Lang   Robert
4   MacDonald   Lowell
4   Malone   Greg
4   McCreary   Keith
4   Schock   Ron
4   Straka   Martin
3   Bathgate   Andy
3   Boutette   Pat
3   Bullard   Mike
3   Larouche   Pierre
3   Mullen   Joe
3   Polis   Greg
3   Stevens   Kevin
2   Barnes   Stu
2   Burrows   Dave
2   Carlyle   Randy
2   Flesch   John
2   Gardner   Paul
2   Kelly   Bob
2   Kovalev   Alexei
2   Kraft   Milan
2   Leiter   Bob
2   Loney   Troy
2   McDonald   Ab
2   Morozov   Aleksey
2   Prentice   Dean
2   Recchi   Mark
2   Shedden   Doug
2   Simpson   Craig
2   Stackhouse   Ron
2   Tocchet   Rick
2   Trottier   Brian
2   Young   Warren
1   Angotti   Lou
1   Bergevin   Marc
1   Bianchin   Wayne
1   Blackburn   Bob
1   Bourque   Phil
1   Carr   Gene
1   Chapman   Blair
1   Coffey   Paul
1   Corbet   Rene
1   Cullen   John
1   Dahlquist   Chris
1   Dillabough   Bob
1   Duguay   Ron
1   Edestrand   Darryl
1   Galanov   Maxim
1   Hatcher   Kevin
1   Hextall   Bryan
1   Hicks   Alex
1   Hillier   Randy
1   Holzinger   Brian
1   Hrdina   Jan
1   Johnson   Mark
1   Kindrachuk   Orest
1   Koltsov   Konstantin
1   Konik   George
1   KSamuelsson   Kjell
1   Lee   Peter
1   Mahovlich   Pete
1   McCallum   Dunc
1   McSorley   Marty
1   Meloche   Eric
1   Mironov   Dmitri
1   Morrison   Jim
1   Morrison   Lew
1   Nedved   Petr
1   Pratt   Tracy
1   Quinn   Dan
1   Robitaille   Luc
1   Sandstrom   Tomas
1   Sather   Glen
1   Shack   Eddie
1   Spencer   Brian
1   Stratton   Art
1   Titov   German
1   Toms   Jeff
1   USamuelsson   Ulf
1   Valk   Garry
1   Zalapski   Zarley
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby relantel on Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:25 pm

ok - here's a dumb question that maybe somebody knows.

In 1999-2000, when the "Regulation Tie" stat was born, that season they included the RT numbers in the losses while also denoting them separately. Such that the Pens were 37-37-8-6 in the media of the day. Now, the NHL shows that season record as 37-31-8-6.

NHL.com showing standings during 2000 playoffs (May 10, 2000) shows it 37-37-8-6:
http://web.archive.org/web/200005101610 ... ndings.htm
yet today on their site viewing standings from that season is 37-31-8-6:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?se ... v-stn-main

NHL by the following season appears to have changed to the current way of not double-counting:
http://web.archive.org/web/200104130108 ... stand.html

Trying to figure out when the NHL went back and changed their handling of the 99-00 team records? The only thing I can determine is it was sometime before March 2, 2009 (the oldest web.archive.org listing for the NHL's current URL for the 99-00 standings - http://web.archive.org/web/200903020840 ... 0&type=CON ).
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby relantel on Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:58 pm

Rick Tabaracci gets his first start in net - October 21, 1988
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ft ... %2C7074982

It would be his only game played with the Penguins, notching a minor penalty in a 6-4 loss. Wendell Young was tagged for the loss, having allowed the 5th goal. He would be traded to Winnipeg the following summer in the Cunneyworth et al-Gilhen et al deal.
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby IMFC on Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:24 pm

NashvilleCat wrote:
relantel wrote:From October 12, 1967 edition of the Pittsburgh Press:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=d ... page&hl=en

Image #19 is the sports page (paginated page 37 in the paper)... "Penguins Look Good Despite Loss". Another article on same page about Jean Beliveau getting goal #400 in that game. The boxscore is on page #39, which includes full rosters (a rarity in the land of the Press). A photo is there on that page too, which shows the Habs in white and the Pens in blue, and highlights Captain Ab McDonald #20.

How about Connie Hawkins throwing in 31 for the Pittsburgh Pipers? A few years ago on EBay I bought a Pittsburgh Pipers t-shirt - great logo.


Title match between Bruno Sammartino and Prof. Tanaka tomorow . . .
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby Bathgate on Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:50 pm

relantel wrote:Honarable mention, same season:
3506 11-21-68 vs Oakland, Leo Boivin with the winning goal.


Checked my records. I was at that game.
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby Gaucho on Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:56 pm

Bathgate wrote:
relantel wrote:Honarable mention, same season:
3506 11-21-68 vs Oakland, Leo Boivin with the winning goal.


Checked my records. I was at that game.


Did you get a goal?
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby Bathgate on Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:58 pm

Beveridge wrote:
relantel wrote:Smallest home crowd to witness a Penguin win...*

was in 68-69, a crowd of less than 3000. Christmas day in 1968, a 6-3 win over the Red Wings, with goals by Pronovost, Burns, McCreary (2), Schinkel, and Angotti. McCreary's second was the winning goal. Attendance was 2420. It was only the 7th win of the season. Capacity in 1968-69 was published as 12580.

Honarable mention, same season:
3506 11-21-68 vs Oakland, Leo Boivin with the winning goal.

*I don't have attendance game by game for 1980-84 range, so it is possible there was a smaller crowd later.


I bet even that crowd was louder than the sellouts now. :slug:


Not true.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/result/article/index.htm?query=Penguins%20WEEP&searchType=mag_article&allClause=&exactClause=&orClause=&notClause=&startDt=&endDt=&sortBy=date&npp=10&currentPage=2&start=11

"Then there is the building itself. Completed four years ago at a cost of $22 million, the 12,580-seat arena is not entirely right for sports events. Soundproofed throughout, it is great for Johnny Cash but tough on the home team. "The fan who pays $5 to $7 for a ticket there doesn't get his money's worth," said an official from another NHL club. "He sees the game O.K., but it's so quiet in there he doesn't feel it. He doesn't get the excitement you get in places like St. Louis and Philadelphia and Minnesota. Or even in Oakland. Why, 5,000 people in Oakland's arena sound like 10,000 when they get worked up. In Pittsburgh 5,000 people sound like 2,000."

The "completed four years ago" statement was incorrect. Should have read "eight years ago".
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Re: Useless Penguin Trivia thread

Postby FLPensFan on Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:06 pm

Anyone able to find a decent write-up on Lemieux's 5 goals 5 different ways game? I looked through the Pittsburgh papers online and found the recap, but no actual article on the game. I guess everyone was still hung over from New Year's eve.
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