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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby The Snapshot on Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:49 pm

That's a lot of money for a goalie. I subscribe to Mikey's theory now that you don't have to overpay a goalie.

I thought Fleury was overpaid at $5M. Someone above had it right that Rask really had one dominant series and played ok in the Final. He basically lost in the 1st round to Toronto and has not won a Cup. Not sure how he got that deal.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Kraftster on Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:05 pm

I mean, its not as if Rask was an average goalie for his entire career and then had one dominant series? Rask has arguably (easily?) been a top 5 goalie in the league since he has been a starter. He has the pedigree/was expected to be a franchise netminder. I agree that the deal is a little high in that he doesn't have as long a track record as Lundqvist or others did before signing large deals and because how much more could they really have had to pay him if they had waited until he did prove himself over a larger sample size, but I don't see any problem with Rask being paid a top 5 goalie salary given his age, etc.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby pcm on Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:28 pm

Wasn't this Rask's first year as the de facto starter?
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Beveridge on Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:32 pm

Yes
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby columbia on Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:33 pm

That's a lot of risk, for Rask, IMO.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Kraftster on Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:33 pm

Rask played 45 games in 09-10, where he was effectively the starter for a long stretch. 1.97/.931
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:11 pm

45 games is a far cry from the 55-65 an actual #1 needs to carry.
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Re: NHL Transactions 1/12/13

Postby Pitt87 on Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:30 pm

canaan wrote:http://www.nj.com/flyers/index.ssf/2013/01/flyers_sign_kurtis_foster_to_1.html

Flyers sign Kurtis Foster


Throwing it all away... unbelievable.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby canaan on Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:46 pm

Eh
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:12 pm

I"m a Kurtis Foster fan.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby pcm on Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:41 pm

Yeah, thats a lot of dough for a goalie who hasn't played more than 45 games in a season and has only 1 playoffs under his belt. A lot of dough for a goalie who puts up very similar numbers to the goalie he's taking over for.... ie. what makes him get paid like a franchise player when the goalie in that system is interchangeable?
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby mikey287 on Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:08 am

Idoit40fans wrote:I"m a Kurtis Foster fan.


Put him on a pairing with your other boy Cam Barker and you have a slightly above average ECHL pairing. :idea:

Spoiler:
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Pitt87 on Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:30 am

The Snapshot wrote:That's a lot of money for a goalie. I subscribe to Mikey's theory now that you don't have to overpay a goalie.

I thought Fleury was overpaid at $5M. Someone above had it right that Rask really had one dominant series and played ok in the Final. He basically lost in the 1st round to Toronto and has not won a Cup. Not sure how he got that deal.


I look at it very much the same way I looked at Vokoun... they have a guy that plays well when his guys play well for him, and his guys play well for him often. He didn't dominate much in the playoffs, but from the blue line back, they were better than everyone else.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby The Snapshot on Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:53 am

Pitt87 wrote:
The Snapshot wrote:That's a lot of money for a goalie. I subscribe to Mikey's theory now that you don't have to overpay a goalie.

I thought Fleury was overpaid at $5M. Someone above had it right that Rask really had one dominant series and played ok in the Final. He basically lost in the 1st round to Toronto and has not won a Cup. Not sure how he got that deal.


I look at it very much the same way I looked at Vokoun... they have a guy that plays well when his guys play well for him, and his guys play well for him often. He didn't dominate much in the playoffs, but from the blue line back, they were better than everyone else.


If they hadn't had a miracle happen against Toronto, he would have been viewed as a complete failure, because Toronto scored often. He had nothing to do with the comeback either.

It's ok with me if Boston wants to throw a wad of cash at him. They must feel pretty secure with him, but my point is that he is not the best goalie in the league. He is around the the top 10.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby SolidSnake on Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:37 am

I bet if Bylsma was GM he would of game Rask $10mil per season
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby SolidSnake on Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:40 am

Bergeron the beast is now extended

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=427561
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Pitt87 on Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:57 am

SolidSnake wrote:Bergeron the beast is now extended

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=427561


Good deal for him. Does all the little things extremely well.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby JS© on Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:29 am

$6.5m is about right for him.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby penny lane on Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:39 pm

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 4m Good candidate to be GM. RT @NHLFlyers: Ron Hextall is back with #Flyers. He has been named Assistant GM & Director of Hockey Operations
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby mikey287 on Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:34 pm

Good add to the Flyers organization. From what I know, he was very important to the Kings success, a really good motivator too. If he had anything to do with finding the duo Jonathan then maybe he can bring that success too...let's hope not. Almost certainly the next GM of the Flyers when Homer is canned...
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Beveridge on Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:46 pm

Probably hired because he is now their best option in goal with the guys they have. :pop:
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby KG on Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:05 pm

Carcillo to the Kings.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Tomas on Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:19 pm

I don't want to create a special thread for this - so Rask "transacted" a Cup and some gold bling:

Image

http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... -Rask-7718
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby canaan on Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:24 pm

Duchesne resigns 5 years 30 mil

also, postma and hickey signed.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby brwi on Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:05 pm

Dustin Brown gets an 8 yr extention with the Kings at around 5.9/yr:
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nhl/stor ... -extension

Matt Duchene extends with the Avs at 6mil/yr for another 5 years:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=427958
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