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toledomudhen wrote:I have heard from someone close to the team that he has a reputation among players that have played for him that he is just not a very smart hockey guy. Since assistants have little to no impact on discipline and accountability, it seems that you would want a keen eye and excellent strategist, and someone that can connect with and support the guys. Seems like a bad hire from what I am hearing and fans should not expect it to make any difference... But after inking Geno to a long term deal immediately after showing his deficiencies defensively in the playoffs and WAY overpaying Letang and all of the other questionable decisions made by Shero this off season why would pens fans show optimism about this hire?
Crankshaft wrote:toledomudhen wrote:I have heard from someone close to the team that he has a reputation among players that have played for him that he is just not a very smart hockey guy. Since assistants have little to no impact on discipline and accountability, it seems that you would want a keen eye and excellent strategist, and someone that can connect with and support the guys. Seems like a bad hire from what I am hearing and fans should not expect it to make any difference... But after inking Geno to a long term deal immediately after showing his deficiencies defensively in the playoffs and WAY overpaying Letang and all of the other questionable decisions made by Shero this off season why would pens fans show optimism about this hire?
He's coached 4 NHL teams and had a winning record by more than 100 games. I'll take his history over a random internet poster.
Idoit40fans wrote:This has nothing to do with your credibility on this board, but rather to do with martin's credibility as a nhl coach whose strength is defensive play.
Idoit40fans wrote:This has nothing to do with your credibility on this board, but rather to do with martin's credibility as a nhl coach whose strength is defensive play.
Beveridge wrote:The Jacques Martin effect....
Here's a preview:
Pens doing good --> Martin
Pens doing bad --> Bylsma
/end Jacques Martin effect
Mr. Colby wrote:I doubt Martin will be of any significant impact. Yet i'm sure there will be the people who put success on Martin and failure on Bylsma. And i'm sure there will be the people who call people out for success/Martin failure/Bylsma. And I'm sure those 2 groups will duke it out claiming to all be neutral yet clearly pushing an agenda one way or the other. But in the end it will be an NHL assistant coach who will have little to no impact on the outcome of the season.
Hugo Stiglitz wrote:
2 - I think anyone who believes that Martin coming in isn't some sort of Tactic to let Bylsma know his job is not safe despite his extension and that Martin wants to take his job, then you are sorely mistaken.
Nizzy wrote:Team Year Regular Season Post Season
G W L T OTL Pts Finish W L W% Result
STL 1986–87 80 32 33 15 – 79 1st in Norris 2 4 .333 Lost in First round
STL 1987–88 80 34 38 8 – 76 2nd in Norris 5 5 .500 Lost in Second round
OTT 1995–96 38 10 24 4 – (41) 6th in Northeast 0 0 – Missed Playoffs
OTT 1996–97 82 31 36 15 – 77 3rd in Northeast 3 4 .429 Lost in First round
OTT 1997–98 82 34 33 15 - 83 5th in Northeast 5 6 .455 Lost in Second round
OTT 1998–99 82 44 23 15 - 103 1st in Northeast 0 4 .000 Lost in First round
OTT 1999–2000 82 41 28 11 2 95 2nd in Northeast 2 4 .333 Lost in First round
OTT 2000–01 82 48 21 9 4 109 1st in Northeast 0 4 .000 Lost in First round
OTT 2001–02 80 38 26 9 7 94 3rd in Northeast 7 5 .583 Lost in Second round
OTT 2002–03 82 52 21 8 1 113 1st in Northeast 11 7 .611 Lost in Conf. Finals
OTT 2003–04 82 43 23 10 6 102 3rd in Northeast 3 4 .429 Lost in First round
FLA 2005–06 82 37 34 – 11 85 4th in Southeast 0 0 – Missed Playoffs
FLA 2006–07 82 35 31 – 16 86 4th in Southeast 0 0 – Missed Playoffs
FLA 2007–08 82 38 35 – 9 85 3rd in Southeast 0 0 – Missed Playoffs
MTL 2009–10 82 39 33 – 10 88 4th in Northeast 9 10 .474 Lost in Conf. Finals
MTL 2010–11 82 44 30 – 8 96 2nd in Northeast 3 4 .429 Lost in First round
MTL 2011–12 32 13 12 – 7 (78) 5th in Northeast - - - (fired)
Total 1,294 613 481 119 81 4 Division
Championships 50 62 .446 12 Playoff
Appearances
he's a loser
he'll fit in perfectly with Bylsma.
Reirden witnessed it on Day 1 of camp during a film session. Martin, reputable for his defensive acumen, did not hesitate to ask a specific question about changes Reirden had implemented to help the Penguins finish seventh in overall goals against last season.
“We don't spend a lot of time in defensive-zone coverage, and it's because we have forwards that have the puck so much,” Reirden said.
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