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TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby TheHammer24 on Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:04 pm

Letang and Neal 33, 34 respectively. Only Chicago with more players on the list.

List composed through votes from GMs and Coaches from 7 teams in each conference.
1. Sidney Crosby
2. Evgeni Malkin
3. Jonathan Toews
4. Steven Stamkos
5. Pavel Datsyuk
6. Zdeno Chara
7. Alex Ovechkin
8. Shea Weber
9. Patrick Kane
10. Claude Giroux
11. Erik Karlsson
12. Henrik Zetterberg
13. John Tavares
14. Henrik Lundqvist
15. Ryan Getzlaf
16. Patrice Bergeron
17. Ryan Suter
18. Anze Kopitar
19. Drew Doughty
20. Duncan Keith
21. Henrik Sedin
22. Jonathan Quick
23. Zach Parise
24. Corey Perry
25. Daniel Sedin
26. Martin St. Louis
27. P.K. Subban
28. Eric Staal
29. Rick Nash
30. Alex Pietrangelo
31. Logan Couture
32. Marian Hossa
33. Kris Letang
34. James Neal
35. Joe Thornton
36. Matt Duchene
37. Jamie Benn
38. Jason Spezza
39. Taylor Hall
40. Nicklas Backstrom
41. Pekka Rinne
42. Milan Lucic
43. Phil Kessel
44. Oliver Ekman-Larsson
45. Sergei Bobrovsky
46. David Krejci
47. Patrick Sharp
48. Dustin Brown
49. Thomas Vanek
50. Mikko Koivu
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby Froggy on Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:05 pm

if this is based off last year, geno is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby TheHammer24 on Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:06 pm

It's just "who's the best player in the league," forward looking.
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby MRandall25 on Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:07 pm

I think Stamkos and Toews should be switched. Just MHO.
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby Froggy on Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:11 pm

tavares and ovechkin are too low, and datsyuk and zetterberg are too high
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby pcm on Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:13 pm

Maybe I'm crazy, but I'd take Letang over Karlsson for his all-around game.
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby Staggy on Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:22 pm

pcm wrote:Maybe I'm crazy, but I'd take Letang over Karlsson for his all-around game.


I don't know, I think Karlsson is just freaking amazing. I think the only advantage Letang has over him is physicality. Even then, that makes Karlsson a much more durable player besides for one freak incident.
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby MRandall25 on Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:24 pm

Yeah, not sure Letang's D game is much better than Karlsson's. Sure, it's better, but I don't think that margin of better-ness is enough to put him over Karlsson.
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby Idoit40fans on Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:30 pm

Letang's game isnt completely negated by getting to him a few times below his bet, id prefer him for sure.
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby smoothmoneyb on Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:18 pm

No jussi jokinen?? This list is a farce.
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby bh on Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:58 am

Toews is good, but I've never watched him and thought he was 3rd best player in the league good. I think he's way too high. And I'd take Hossa over a few of those listed about him.
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby TheHammer24 on Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:49 am

bh wrote:Toews is good, but I've never watched him and thought he was 3rd best player in the league good. I think he's way too high. And I'd take Hossa over a few of those listed about him.

I maintain Hossa is (and has been) the most underrated player in the league since his days in Ottawa.
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby meow on Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:02 am

Patrice Bergeron's underratedness is so overrated that he is now overrated.
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:07 am

Haha definitely agree on Bergeron. I constantly think Hossa is going to suddenly be appreciated for how good he is, but it never happens haha.
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby Pitts on Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:22 am

Giroux too high and Perry too low. I actually think Perry is the better player of the two. Perry gets the points and the PIMs.

And Tavarez should be top 5.
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby Pitts on Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:25 am

pcm wrote:Maybe I'm crazy, but I'd take Letang over Karlsson for his all-around game.

I like Subban a bit better. He's in your face and getting under your skin all game long. Plus, he puts up just as many points.
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby DelPen on Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:36 am

When Letang decides to actually not be an idiot his defensive game it superb. If he had more confidence with the puck on offense and could anticipate the play better he could be the best defensemen in the NHL.
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby Kaizer on Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:40 am

i guess i havent been paying attention, because i have no idea who matt duchene is.
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby wondermoose on Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:44 am

pcm wrote:Maybe I'm crazy, but I'd take Letang over Karlsson for his all-around game.


Letang? All-around game? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby penny lane on Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:08 pm

DelPen wrote:When Letang decides to actually not be an idiot his defensive game it superb. If he had more confidence with the puck on offense and could anticipate the play better he could be the best defensemen in the NHL.

:thumb: Exactly. And On a 2 and 1 with scuderi or orpik- never pass the puck.
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby sniper on Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:26 pm

Pitts wrote:
pcm wrote:Maybe I'm crazy, but I'd take Letang over Karlsson for his all-around game.

I like Subban a bit better. He's in your face and getting under your skin all game long. Plus, he puts up just as many points.


Most of Subban's points are on the power play. He tied Emelin for his team lead in scoring at even strength among defenseman with 12 points. Emelin played 4 less games. Combine that with Montreal having 30 more minutes of power play time than the team with the second most power play time (Detroit). Montreal also had 62 more minutes of power play time than Pittsburgh and Subban's points last season look more and more suspect and unlikely to continue to be in league leader territory (although that team does dive a lot). He had zero business winning the Norris. Paul Martin who played 8 less games had more even strength points than Mr. Norris. Heck Chris Phillips had more even strength points than him. Montreal was 3rd in the league in scoring so it's not like he wasn't out there for goals, he just didn't contribute to them.

Subban is far down the list of guys I would pick to be my top defenseman. He's a power play specialist who acts like a horses rear end.
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby Pucks_and_Pols on Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:15 am

Surprised to see Mr. Hart Trophy Ovechkin not in the top 5.
And a very minor point, but what exactly has Alex Pietrangelo done to get him up to #30? I'd take almost anyone else listed from 31-50 If I was doing a draft of all players to start a new NHL team.
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby Gaucho on Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:32 am

wondermoose wrote:
pcm wrote:Maybe I'm crazy, but I'd take Letang over Karlsson for his all-around game.


Letang? All-around game? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby shmenguin on Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:18 am

in a ho hum game in january with the intensity dialed down, letang might be the one of the best players in the league. in some wild playoff game - nope. fleury evokes a similar sentiment. and crosby's probably not in that category, but he's not not in that category.
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Re: TSN Names Top 50 Players - Sid 1, Geno 2

Postby canaan on Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:44 pm

On what planet is rick nash a better player than marian hossa?
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