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Dickie Dunn wrote:Kraftster wrote:Hmm... so the complete series DVD set will include a 3 minute alternate ending. I am not sure how I feel about that.
If I had to wager a guess, I think its a joke ending. Jane Kaczmarek was seen on set toward the end of filming. I think Hal is going to wake up from a long dream, ala Newhart.
WDWBurghGooner wrote:I've been binge watching the series over the past couple of weeks and I just watched the final last night.
I'm confused, how did Lydia get the ricin laced stevia? I've re-watched the scene three times. It doesn't appear that Walt leaves anything nor does the waiter come back after she asks for the stevia. Is that just a "let it slide it's tv" moment? Or did I miss something?
MWB wrote:Sarcastic, I agree with a lot of what you say, but you ignore a lot of what Walt did. Yes, he was trying to help Jesse and his family. However, he killed quite a few people in the process, including people who were loved by those he was "protecting." He also nearly killed a little kid. He thought he was a God-like figure, through and through. He was in control of everything and knew what was best for everyone. But he really wasn't, and ended up screwing a lot of people over.
We had a good thing, you stupid son of a *****! We had Fring, we had a lab, we had everything we needed, and it all ran like clockwork! You could have shut your mouth, cooked, and made as much money as you ever needed! It was perfect! But no! You just had to blow it up! You, and your pride and your ego! You just had to be the man! If you’d known your place, we’d all be fine right now!"
MWB wrote:Yes, Jesse can blame a lot of his circumstances on himself. However, Walt pulled Jesse back each time he tried to get out of the business, because Walt needed Jesse for his own personal needs. That led to the death of the first girlfriend, which I agree could also be seen as Jesse's fault. It led to the death of the kid's mother, which I don't think Jesse should be blamed for. Walt is the one who got into bed with the Nazis and is to blame for anything that resulted from that connection.
I agree with you completely that Walt saw Jesse as his son. He definitely did everything with a purpose and an end.
As for Skylar… How could it be said that she was overly dramatic about the mafia coming after her? The Nazis broke into her house and threatened to kill her and her family. They needed her to be kept quiet because they knew that she knew. Skylar wasn't a favorite of mine, but I think her character made sense. She wanted her family to be safe and did what was best for them. Just like Walt. They went about it different ways though.
This is what makes this show so great. Differing opinions that both make relative sense.
count2infinity wrote:To quote Mike...We had a good thing, you stupid son of a *****! We had Fring, we had a lab, we had everything we needed, and it all ran like clockwork! You could have shut your mouth, cooked, and made as much money as you ever needed! It was perfect! But no! You just had to blow it up! You, and your pride and your ego! You just had to be the man! If you’d known your place, we’d all be fine right now!"
I completely blame Walt for it all. I understand his need for control over his recipe. He needs that control or he dies. Fring could have easily replaced him once his recipe was mastered. That I understand. His incessant need to be the top dog though... THAT is what did him in, not Jesse.
Idoit40fans wrote:It was all hank's fault. He basically bullied walt into feeli the need to prove himself and basically showed himthe door to walk through to do so. :soda:
Sarcastic wrote:count2infinity wrote:To quote Mike...We had a good thing, you stupid son of a *****! We had Fring, we had a lab, we had everything we needed, and it all ran like clockwork! You could have shut your mouth, cooked, and made as much money as you ever needed! It was perfect! But no! You just had to blow it up! You, and your pride and your ego! You just had to be the man! If you’d known your place, we’d all be fine right now!"
I completely blame Walt for it all. I understand his need for control over his recipe. He needs that control or he dies. Fring could have easily replaced him once his recipe was mastered. That I understand. His incessant need to be the top dog though... THAT is what did him in, not Jesse.
Why shouldn't Walt be the top dog if it's his meth we're talking about? The mafia he worked for... the moment he'd do anything against their rules, he'd be a goner. I think he had to go on his own one way or another.
count2infinity wrote:You mean to tell me that everything microsoft has ever done is all Bill Gates? Everything that Apple has ever done was Steve Jobs? That's the way businesses work. The people that are the brilliant geniuses that come up with brilliant innovations and ideas are not the top dogs, they are people that are working under the top dogs. Walt started out with a set number in his mind of how much money he needed to make. All he had to do was cook for Fring, make his money and get out, but he didn't do that. He couldn't stand the fact that he wasn't top dog, and that is what did him in.
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