Jim wrote:Defence21 wrote:Steve wrote:I hear the "country club" term thrown around a lot here - I don't know what that means.
Sure, not benching someone that needs to be benched - that might be an obvious example for us. But do we have insiders here, who are at the closed practices or in the lockerroom, who know that it's a country club atmosphere? Or is this just a term people like to toss around after a few losses, because it sounds good?
Country club, in my opinion, isn't just tossed around lightly. It isn't, however, based on any inside knowledge. From my perspective, country club pertains to the team not making changes, not following the coach's system, players not being held accountable (based on ice time, etc) for mistakes and, more importantly, repeat mistakes. It's not a scientific thing, but I think it's far from a term used to define a few losses.
Exactly. It is a sense of the players just doing what they want, having fun but not having any desire or drive or accountability. Just show up, have a good time with their friends, go home.
Which player(s) are you referring to, who just show up and don't have desire or drive? Starting at the top of the core, that doesn't sound at all accurate for 87, 71 or 58. Now if you want to say Letang isnt' being held accountable for his freelancing, no disagreement from me. Just picking these players, since this thread is about the core - everything I've read and heard, is that these guys work out like crazy during the season and in the offseason etc - and I've heard that Letang spends a ton of time in the film room.
Did you mean other players? I'm not disagreeing with you as I have no idea about MAF or some of the other players - I'm just curious if I'm cheering on some slackers on this team. This team isn't perfect of course - but I think generally they are a hard working team, at least on the ice.