Factorial wrote:He's spent one game on the Crosby line and missed a number of games this year due to injury.Give him some time.

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Factorial wrote:He's spent one game on the Crosby line and missed a number of games this year due to injury.Give him some time.
Factorial wrote:Give him some time.
Jim wrote:Factorial wrote:Give him some time.
I am not saying ship him off, at all, but...
How much time? Gibbons did more with the 10 minutes that he got than Bennett has done in the 10 games he played so far this year. He didn't need much time to make a statement. Also, Jeffrey played 100 NHL games and yesterday people were saying that he didn't get enough opportunity either. For one guy 10 minutes was enough, for another 100 games was not...
Jim wrote:Factorial wrote:Give him some time.
I am not saying ship him off, at all, but...
How much time? Gibbons did more with the 10 minutes that he got than Bennett has done in the 10 games he played so far this year. He didn't need much time to make a statement. Also, Jeffrey played 100 NHL games and yesterday people were saying that he didn't get enough opportunity either. For one guy 10 minutes was enough, for another 100 games was not...
Dickie Dunn wrote:We're talking about a coach who regularly plays Deryk Engelland on defense. Why would anyone expect his personnel decisions to be anything but idiotic?
Factorial wrote:Jim wrote:Factorial wrote:Give him some time.
I am not saying ship him off, at all, but...
How much time? Gibbons did more with the 10 minutes that he got than Bennett has done in the 10 games he played so far this year. He didn't need much time to make a statement. Also, Jeffrey played 100 NHL games and yesterday people were saying that he didn't get enough opportunity either. For one guy 10 minutes was enough, for another 100 games was not...
Let's see how he looks after 10, 20 games on Crosby's line. I hope whoever is your boss doesn't judge you long term worth on such a small sample size.
Engelland has good games and some pretty bad games. I thought he was excellent last night.meow wrote:Dickie Dunn wrote:We're talking about a coach who regularly plays Deryk Engelland on defense. Why would anyone expect his personnel decisions to be anything but idiotic?
I don't get this. Engelland is a good bottom pair guy. Why the hate?
meow wrote:Dickie Dunn wrote:We're talking about a coach who regularly plays Deryk Engelland on defense. Why would anyone expect his personnel decisions to be anything but idiotic?
I don't get this. Engelland is a good bottom pair guy. Why the hate?
shmenguin wrote:what we're learning is that giving up the puck because you don't know how to accept a pass or have no natural talent is ok. giving up the puck because you're attempting to create offense is not.
this will surely be helpful when we are crapping all over ourselves trying to score goals in about 5 months.
largegarlic wrote:2. There's a real question concerning whether this coaching staff is capable of successfully bringing along young talent in general. I don't think you can definitively say that they aren't capable, but when you don't really have any positive examples of this happening, it again can start creeping into your mind.
MRandall25 wrote:largegarlic wrote:2. There's a real question concerning whether this coaching staff is capable of successfully bringing along young talent in general. I don't think you can definitively say that they aren't capable, but when you don't really have any positive examples of this happening, it again can start creeping into your mind.
On the flip side, what exactly have they been given to develop?
And before people start thinking this is an indictment of Shero, it isn't (well, not entirely).
Since 2000, there have been maybe 5 forwards (outside of the no-brainers in Crosby, Malkin, and Staal) drafted by the Pens organization that have made an impact or at least held on to a roster spot for a small amount of time: Tom Kostopoulos, Ryan Malone, Colby Armstrong, Max Talbot, Tyler Kennedy (I may be forgetting one or two, but we discussed this in chat last night). Erik Christensen might be a stretch. You could also throw in Carcillo and Moulson, as they were developed in the organization, but let go/traded.
While people would like to think this is a "now" problem (so they can grind their axes and what not), the Pens have had nothing for a while in terms of forwards in the system who have been able to crack the lineup.
Idoit40fans wrote:Why do people get hung up on the idea that when someone says something about developin players theyre talkin about forwards only?
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