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MRandall25 wrote:I don't really see that as saying "The younger guys were better than Martin and Letang".
meow wrote:I don't understand the dislike of Orpik around here. We aren't talking about Andrew, are we?
Gaucho wrote:Are we throwing in the towel on next season already? Because that's the only way trading Martin makes sense.
Gaucho wrote:Are we throwing in the towel on next season already? Because that's the only way trading Martin makes sense.
Gaucho wrote:Are we throwing in the towel on next season already? Because that's the only way trading Martin makes sense.
Crankshaft wrote:Gaucho wrote:Are we throwing in the towel on next season already? Because that's the only way trading Martin makes sense.
Agreed. If anything, I'm all for extending Martin for 2 more years. His game translates better than an Orpik.
shmenguin wrote:Pitt87 wrote:shmenguin wrote:1 year, 3 million for orpik. i think we still need a placeholder.
The last thing we need at the blue line is a placeholder, and I think its a not particularly respectful to a guy that's given you his best years to give him a one-year deal at 33. Could be his last shot at a 3-5 year deal.
Happy trails...
we're losing niskanen, and i'd prefer we ditch scuderi. in this scenario, i think we need more of a veteran presence in next year's D lineup.
Chirpin' Grinder wrote:Crankshaft wrote:Gaucho wrote:Are we throwing in the towel on next season already? Because that's the only way trading Martin makes sense.
Agreed. If anything, I'm all for extending Martin for 2 more years. His game translates better than an Orpik.
Why would Martin sign a two year extension?? He will want at least 4 years, probably with a salary increase.
No reason that dealing Martin means giving up on next season. That is ludicrous. They haven't won anything with Martin.
The right return would make them a more balanced team.
The reasons to trade Martin;
1) Legit top pairing guy coming off of a good season and with an affordable cap hit for next season will be bring multiple assets
2) Martin gets hurt and wears down. This is not going to improve with age. He is not a guy that you want to sign to a contract that will see him turn 35 during the first season.
3) Pens have too many needs to play out the year with an asset such as Martin, then lose him for nothing. That is a luxury they cannot afford.
4) Martin is more replaceable than Letang and #58 is at a low point as far as his value goes. You don't want to trade Letang and then lose Martin after next season.
5) D needs to get younger and bigger, replacements are ready and $$$ need to be shifted from blue line to bottom six.
Nizzy wrote:Before you ask the question of "Do we want to keep Orpik" you must ask, "What role will he be used for?"
The Martin-Orpik "top pairing" is dead. It shouldn't even of happened for the Olympics, and Orpik missed an assignment for the goal vs Canada.
So if you want Orpik to be the bottom pairing guy with Bortuzzo, or Maatta? Sign me up for 1-2 years @ under 3 million. If you want him in the top 4? Thanks for your time with the Pens, Brooks!
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