Goalie Trade Rumors Refuse to Die

[gruntov]

Rumors about Halak for Colby and/or picking up Ollie the Goalie as the trade deadline nears.

http://ottsun.canoe.ca/Sports/Hockey/20 ... 4-sun.html


http://www.nypost.com/seven/10282007/sp ... htm?page=2

[jimjom]

Yes, please!

[Rocket_Tocchet]

I don't put any stock in the rumor sites but buzz on the burgh is also reporting Bryzgalov to the Pens for what appears to be any combination of Christensen, Brent, Sabourin, and a prospect.

I guess since Markov is in Russia Fleury's replacement/challenger is the new rumor that won't go away.

[Zscout]

I just read the stuff on the Buzz. When you think about Fleury becoming a FA; it may be smart to bring somebody in that will give the team some options.
If Fleury continues to play inconsistent, and Sabourin does not hold up, the team will need a goalie to help get them into and through the playoffs.
If Fleury plays like he is capable of and surprises everybody by playing well in the playoffs, he becomes a RFA and gets a big offer from another team that force Shero into a tough decision that could upset the teams salary structure.

[mikey287]

Halak would be a good addition...

[TheHammer24]

I don't put any stock in the rumor sites but buzz on the burgh is also reporting Bryzgalov to the Pens for what appears to be any combination of Christensen, Brent, Sabourin, and a prospect.

I guess since Markov is in Russia Fleury's replacement/challenger is the new rumor that won't go away.

That seems like a reasonable price for a goaltender as qualified as Bryzgalov. It obviously depends on the prospect though.

[crzymike]

I think if we would trade Armstrong, it would be prudent to TRY and bring in a defensive minded defensemen. Hopefully a righty who isnt prone to turnovers in the defensive zone.

[Rocket_Tocchet]

I just read the stuff on the Buzz. When you think about Fleury becoming a FA; it may be smart to bring somebody in that will give the team some options.
If Fleury continues to play inconsistent, and Sabourin does not hold up, the team will need a goalie to help get them into and through the playoffs.
If Fleury plays like he is capable of and surprises everybody by playing well in the playoffs, he becomes a RFA and gets a big offer from another team that force Shero into a tough decision that could upset the teams salary structure.

Oh I agree with that, Bryzgalov is the guy I want if Shero brings anyone in. I'm just not banking on any rumors until something actually happens.

[LdubsRoot23]

The only people in the organization I would consider trading are:
Gonch - even though he's played alright if you can free up space and pick up a more solid dman i'd be all for it, but nobody is taking that off our hands at his price

Rex - also will never happen

EC - I could see this happening. Lets face it, he's low man on the center totem pole and that is what he needs to be to thrive in the league. I don't think being good at shootouts makes you untouchable. Get somebody that fits in better with the guys that aren't going anywhere sometime soon

Brent - again gonna be very hard for him to crack the line-up at center, especially with Espo waiting in the wings, he's a good faceoff guy but we've clearly improved considerably in that area

Sabu - no use in keeping him IF you are looking for another goalie, which I doubt. But if he can help to get us something we need (scoring depth at wing, right handed shot, better defense) go for it.

I think it'd be a terrible mistake to get rid of Colby. He's an excellent, young checking line winger that gives you great PK minutes. He is great in the locker room, and can give you the big hit to pick up his teammates when the team is looking sluggish.

[netwolf]

No way I trade Armstrong for Halak. Kolzig could be a decent rental, depending on cost, but I'd rather roll with Fleury and bolster the defense first.

[HomerPenguin]

This depends a lot on what the team seems capable of, no? If they're still a year or two away from being a serious contender, and Fleury's early struggles indeed prove to be an aberration, what's the point in bringing in an expensive veteran goalie who is likely going to cost you some value in trade?

[TheHammer24]

The thing is that Bryzgalov is a starting goalie in the NHL, and if the Ducks are patient they can get much better than what we will be willing to offer to use him as a backup. I don't see us getting him for that low of a cost no matter how advantageous it would be.

[Jim]

No way I trade Armstrong for Halak. Kolzig could be a decent rental, depending on cost, but I'd rather roll with Fleury and bolster the defense first.

Just say no to Kolzig! I have seen him give up too many bad bad goals to want him. Plus, at $5.45M this AND next year... To quote Dr. Evil, "How about NO"!!!

[cerp66]

This depends a lot on what the team seems capable of, no? If they're still a year or two away from being a serious contender, and Fleury's early struggles indeed prove to be an aberration, what's the point in bringing in an expensive veteran goalie who is likely going to cost you some value in trade?

Fleury's struggles are anything but an aberration. He's been inconsistent from day one. Just because he was the first pick in the draft, doesn't automatically mean he will become a franchise goalie. Many hockey people felt he was overrated on draft day, and so far he's done nothing in the NHL (or outside the NHL) to disprove them.

[LdubsRoot23]

This depends a lot on what the team seems capable of, no? If they're still a year or two away from being a serious contender, and Fleury's early struggles indeed prove to be an aberration, what's the point in bringing in an expensive veteran goalie who is likely going to cost you some value in trade?

Fleury's struggles are anything but an aberration. He's been inconsistent from day one. Just because he was the first pick in the draft, doesn't automatically mean he will become a franchise goalie. Many hockey people felt he was overrated on draft day, and so far he's done nothing in the NHL (or outside the NHL) to disprove them.

Are you kidding me? How on earth could anybody possibly know where this kid will be in a couple years. Nobody in the league questions his athletic ability, it's all about fine tuning some aspects of his game and he'll be a franchise goalie.

He was poorly managed in his first couple seasons with the team. Last year he held down the starting job and stole plenty of games for us last year (including the only playoff game we won). He won 40 games last season, is still the youngest starter in the league and will continue to improve so long as he doesn't get hung out to dry by the players in front of him.

That said, if you can bring in another young goalie to push MAF and create more competition without giving up too much, I wouldn't see it as a bad thing. Giving up Colby is WAY too much though...EC, Rex, Brent, Sabu...a completely different story.

I still think there are three things of greater importance (scoring depth at wing, solid d-man right-handed shot), and I'd rather see us acquire one or two of these in dealing some of our assets.

[Jim]

Are you kidding me? How on earth could anybody possibly know where this kid will be in a couple years. Nobody in the league questions his athletic ability, it's all about fine tuning some aspects of his game and he'll be a franchise goalie.

So in one breath you question ability to know where MAF will be in a couple years. In the next breath you state that with a little tuning "he'll be a franchise goalie" So which is it, you can or can't predict? Or is it that only people that do not think MAF will be a superstar can't prredict, while those that think he will be a superstar can...?

[LdubsRoot23]

Are you kidding me? How on earth could anybody possibly know where this kid will be in a couple years. Nobody in the league questions his athletic ability, it's all about fine tuning some aspects of his game and he'll be a franchise goalie.

So in one breath you question ability to know where MAF will be in a couple years. In the next breath you state that with a little tuning "he'll be a franchise goalie" So which is it, you can or can't predict? Or is it that only people that do not think MAF will be a superstar can't prredict, while those that think he will be a superstar can...?

I'm saying that to dismiss him this early, with the pathetic defense put in front of him, is ridiculous.

Personally, I don't think I've seen anything so severe (again, in light of the terrible support he's received) to say that he CAN'T be a franchise.

It's not blind support either, I could be wrong. I just don't buy into the ridiculous "let's all be sensationalist morons that live and die with every single performance as an indication of a player's worth when he's 3 years away from the typical age in which a goaltender reaches his apex" train of thought...please accept my apologies.

[Jim]

No need to appologize...

[netwolf]

No way I trade Armstrong for Halak. Kolzig could be a decent rental, depending on cost, but I'd rather roll with Fleury and bolster the defense first.

Just say no to Kolzig! I have seen him give up too many bad bad goals to want him. Plus, at $5.45M this AND next year... To quote Dr. Evil, "How about NO"!!!

I retract my previous statement. When Kolzig was mentioned as a rental, I assumed that meant he was on the last year of his deal.

[KG]

I'm sure that Kolzig has a NTC in his contract. That is not the way the pens need to spend their money....