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Ruth Ann Daily: Duquesne shouldn't have large say in casino

Postby Ben Klingston on Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:37 pm

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06044/654572.stm

I didn't see this posted yet... sorry if repeat.
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Postby NIN on Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:49 pm

She failed to mention that if not for gambling our old people would be up **** creek without a paddle.
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Postby spoon on Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:32 pm

NIN wrote:She failed to mention that if not for gambling our old people would be up **** creek without a paddle.


they can always go up the Mon or Ohio if they dont like the **** creek
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Postby HomerPenguin on Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:40 pm

spoon wrote:
NIN wrote:She failed to mention that if not for gambling our old people would be up **** creek without a paddle.


they can always go up the Mon or Ohio if they dont like the **** creek


Wait, you mean **** creek ISN'T the Mon?
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Postby ExPatriatePen on Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:37 pm

HomerPenguin wrote:Wait, you mean **** creek ISN'T the Mon?


No, that distiction belongs to the Chicago River.
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Postby Bring Back KC on Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:10 pm

Duquesne really shouldn't have a say. I don't know of any non-profit group that can actually influence public works or commercial enterprise.

Moreover, from a pragmatic standpoint, Duquesne would be well advised by taking a leadership role in community re-development of the lower hill. Rather than sit back and worry about casinos, how about sponsoring a few cleanup groups on fifth and forbes.
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Postby DayWalker on Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:28 pm

Bring Back KC wrote:Duquesne really shouldn't have a say. I don't know of any non-profit group that can actually influence public works or commercial enterprise.

Moreover, from a pragmatic standpoint, Duquesne would be well advised by taking a leadership role in community re-development of the lower hill. Rather than sit back and worry about casinos, how about sponsoring a few cleanup groups on fifth and forbes.


UPMC?
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Postby Bring Back KC on Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:39 pm

How does UPMC influence commercialism in Oakland?

If anything, the only thing it does is encourage it. I have never once heard of UPMC claiming that a business couldn't operate adjacent to its facility.
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Postby Bring Back KC on Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:41 pm

Also, UPMC is for-profit.
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Postby DayWalker on Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:58 pm

Bring Back KC wrote:How does UPMC influence commercialism in Oakland?

If anything, the only thing it does is encourage it. I have never once heard of UPMC claiming that a business couldn't operate adjacent to its facility.


UPMC played a prominent role in 2002-2003 in having operations like Pizzaz shut down on the corridor on Fifth. Furthermore, UPMC has been working in conjunction with the university at-large to change the appearance of Oakland and the storefronts and facades of the myriad business enterprises in Oakland, especially on behalf of the many families that take advantage of UPMC's world-class medical care. If you have been to Oakland recently, you will notice that it looks 10X better than it did even a few years ago. People with whom I have spoken have suggested that UPMC and the university itself-both non-profit enterprises-have played a prominent role in the commercialization of South Oakland.

I have absolutely no qualms with influential non-profit enterprises-like Duquesne, Pitt, UPMC-leveraging government to suit their needs. Now, whether GOVERNMENT should be responsive to those needs is debatable. But that is a separate argument.
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Postby DayWalker on Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:03 pm

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Postby ExPatriatePen on Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:07 pm

UPMC is most definitely NON-Profit.

While their emplyees pay wage taxes, the properties they, and other non-profits like Duquesne, own, are TAX EXEMPT.

For local politicians to 'cow-tow' to these bullies is insane. No community has ever been successful when they relied on Non-Profits as their major employeers.
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