SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby pens_CT on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:38 pm

Kicksave wrote:Staal would probably be dealt in any Gaborik trade.

What I meant was his $4-5 mil will go towards Gaborik, then we'll have cash left to fill out the rest of the roster.
And who replaces Gaborik when he misses his typical 25 games per season?
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby Samsdog on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:38 pm

KG wrote:I don't see a Gaborik signing..I would do flips if they did, but that is dangerous with the current cap situation. Unless the cap goes up considerably, it is very dangerous...

Gionta, Havlat, Cole, Tanguay, Sedin, Afingenov, Kotalik are players the pens should have real interest in...In a perfect world, they sign 2 from that group...


That's right on the money I think- Gaborik could be signed but it is very dangerous, especially a few years down the road when they have to resign Letang, Goligoski, (Caputi), and deal with any other needs. It could fit short term but a few years down the road it would crash and burn.
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby newarenanow on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:38 pm

Kicksave wrote:Staal would probably be dealt in any Gaborik trade.

What I meant was his $4-5 mil will go towards Gaborik, then we'll have cash left to fill out the rest of the roster.


We'd have approx. $5.0M then to replace 3 guys. Our depth would be lacking then, and our hands would be tied for the next 4-5 years since we'd have approx $35M tied into five players over the next 4-5 years. That would mean the other 20 players would have to make an average of approx $1.25M each.
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby Kicksave on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:41 pm

newarenanow wrote:
Kicksave wrote:Staal would probably be dealt in any Gaborik trade.

What I meant was his $4-5 mil will go towards Gaborik, then we'll have cash left to fill out the rest of the roster.


We'd have approx. $5.0M then to replace 3 guys. Our depth would be lacking then, and our hands would be tied for the next 4-5 years since we'd have approx $35M tied into five players over the next 4-5 years. That would mean the other 20 players would have to make an average of approx $1.25M each.


Gonchar will be off the cap after next year. Other trades can be made, etc.

You also have to hope that the good drafting they have done can plug some of those holes like Caputi.
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby Kicksave on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:42 pm

Plus, I'm just saying Gaborik is possible.

There are other cheaper options that could be just as good.
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby fourtKNOX on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:46 pm

I think Gill and Sydor are replaced from within in Gogo and one of the other WBS guys...

You also have Gonchar coming off the books very soon... I would love to see him re-uped here... but will see if he wants to maybe take a smaller contract to finish his career on a winning team. He will demand top dollar and will get it if needed.

I think guys like Caputi, Kennedy, Minard even... will be looked upon to fill roles on the top two lines... not saying both will be on the sides of Crosby and Malkin but one on each line... fill in a top flight winger for crosby, and hopefully re-up Syko...

Potentially

Caputi-Crosby-FA
Staal/FA-Malkin-Sykora
Kennedy-Dupuis-Cooke
Talbot-Minard/WBS-Biz/Boogard

Whitney-Orpik
Letang-Eaton
Gogo-Richards/Lovejoy/Strait

And that is not including Gonchar

Is that way off... Talbot is not signed long term yet so he could be replaced as well for a cheaper player although I am in favor of signing him sooner then later!
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby newarenanow on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:49 pm

Kicksave wrote:
newarenanow wrote:
Kicksave wrote:Staal would probably be dealt in any Gaborik trade.

What I meant was his $4-5 mil will go towards Gaborik, then we'll have cash left to fill out the rest of the roster.


We'd have approx. $5.0M then to replace 3 guys. Our depth would be lacking then, and our hands would be tied for the next 4-5 years since we'd have approx $35M tied into five players over the next 4-5 years. That would mean the other 20 players would have to make an average of approx $1.25M each.


Gonchar will be off the cap after next year. Other trades can be made, etc.

You also have to hope that the good drafting they have done can plug some of those holes like Caputi.


I didn't include Gonchar in that number. I included Sid, Malkin, Gaborik, Fluery, and Whitney.

It takes time for those players to develop to fill those holes. I'm not judging by the first three games, but we are seeing what Letang and Gologoski can do if those who wanted Gonchar and Whitney traded had their wish. Plus, they will want raises too if they can do the job, and we won't be able to afford them.
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby newarenanow on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:50 pm

Kicksave wrote:Plus, I'm just saying Gaborik is possible.

There are other cheaper options that could be just as good.


I agree it is possible, but you are giving up a lot and pretty much limiting yourself to what you can do if another piece of the puzzle is broken. Which isn't smart IMO.
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby Kicksave on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:50 pm

I'm not saying Gaborik is 100%, I do see them making a move though.
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby Pitts on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:52 pm

newarenanow wrote:No, but bump it a bit. Marian Gaborik: 5 years, $7 mil per = 4 Stanley Cups.


No, it really doesn't.[/quote]
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby penny lane on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:54 pm

Can these guys have at least October to play the games. :P

Hossa only starting scoring goals in the nyr series. Truth.
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby newarenanow on Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:00 pm

Pitts wrote:C'mon ... dream with me NAN!


I'll try. :D
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby Pitts on Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:00 pm

Kicksave wrote:Plus, I'm just saying Gaborik is possible.

There are other cheaper options that could be just as good.


Aflac?

I mean, Havlat?
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby Kicksave on Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:00 pm

Is Alexander Frolov apart of the King's core? They aren't going after Dustin Brown. Frolov might be the option. Patrick O'Sullivan moves to wing. Kopitar/Brown on their first line, Staal/O'Sullivan on their 2nd line.
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby Kicksave on Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:01 pm

Nathan Horton, anyone?
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby Pitts on Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:02 pm

Kicksave wrote:Nathan Horton, anyone?

David Booth?
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby Kicksave on Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:03 pm

Jonathan Cheechoo?
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby Pitts on Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:04 pm

Henrik and Daniel Sedin??????
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby Kicksave on Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:06 pm

Pitts wrote:
Kicksave wrote:Nathan Horton, anyone?

David Booth?


I like Booth as a player, just don't want to rely on him for a top-2 line spot. I wouldn't give up enough for the Panthers to justify trading him.

Horton, on the other hand, could be having a down year without Olli. They might bite if we're offering up Staal in a deal.
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby Samsdog on Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:06 pm

Alexander Ovechkin???

Sorry, had to do it.
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby Kicksave on Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:06 pm

Pitts wrote:Henrik and Daniel Sedin??????


Who could turn down Swedish twins?
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby dagny on Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:08 pm

Pitts wrote:
Kicksave wrote:Nathan Horton, anyone?

David Booth?


Seeley Booth?... oh, wait. . . wrong thread. :P
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby Kicksave on Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:10 pm

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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby Pitts on Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:10 pm

Kicksave wrote:
Pitts wrote:Henrik and Daniel Sedin??????


Who could turn down Swedish twins?

Every man's dream - and in hockey uniforms!
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Re: SATAN and FEDEX just bridges?

Postby Mongoose87 on Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:14 pm

Four way trade: All of our draft picks for the next three years for: Gaborik, Hossa and Bouwmeester.
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